Thoughts on just being a guy

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Originally Posted by Fairfax

What I found frustrating was the way you seem to think all males are the same yet it was obvious to me from about age 14 that most other guys weren't getting the pleasure I did.
I think only some guys are sensitive there and even most of them don't have the interest to explore it further.

I’ve thought a lot about that too, but put a different interpretation on that seeming lack of interest. All guys have the same plumbing and electrical systems, so the same stimulus should affect them the same. But I think learned social inhibition short-circuits their response.

In my school, jockstraps were required starting in 7th grade. I well remember the embarrassment suffered by boys who popped an erection while putting on or taking off theirs in the locker room, complete with jokes and harassment from everyone else. That quickly taught us to rechannel the nerve signals received about how our genitals felt in that confined pouch.

Similarly, Speedos, especially the old-style nylon ones, accurately reveal the state of tumescence of the wearer, so avoiding boners in public is a good idea. Sadly for the sport of swimming, many guys do that by avoiding Speedos entirely, instead turning wearing one into a joke. I’ve always liked the challenge of walking the length of the beach without the cool feeling I got wearing a Speedo becoming obvious to casual observers.

Rather than avoid the stimulation he gets from tight clothes, Sebbie simply acknowledges and celebrates it.

[sebbie]

I like a tight fit—a really really tight fit

A key part of the process of growing into an adult male is learning how to deal with sexual sensations of various sorts. Sexual pleasure is this complicated mixture of the physical and the psychological. A guy learns some of the details by himself but also by picking up on what his male peers are doing either by simply observing or by what other males may say about all of this.

It turns out that some males have no difficulty boasting about their conquests with sexual partners. For straight guys this is commonplace. There may be some parallels for gay guys too. But the topic that is usually kept secret relates to solo sex aka masturbation aka self-pleasuring.

The secrecy involves the idea that if males were open with their male peers about what they like to do on their own for pure pleasure, their peers would think the less of them as in this guy is so unappealing, he cannot find a date. Somehow this has evolved into the (wrong!) idea that guys whop masturbate on a regular basis must be gay and admitting that you are hooked on self-pleasuring means that you are also gay.

Still, I have enjoyed myself this way for probably 65 of my 75 years and my enthusiasm for the activity has not abated in the least. But I am also very curious about the whole subject of whether or not I have tried everything interesting and fun in this department, or whether there are still interesting things to do in that department that I have not tried.

One of the fascinating things about this blog is that a lot of guys here openly admit that they find that self-abuse in a swim brief is a really fun thing to do with essentially no down-side (unless a peer or friend/relative/parent accidentally discovers you in a Speedo bearing a full erection (or worse). That is good to know for sure, and it is nice to have this information even at this late date in my life. The worst part about this cleaning up the mess you may have created undetected.

The Internet is a great source of information that provides detailed video on self-pleasuring inaccessible not that many years ago, and there appears to be no shortage of guys enthusiastic about making the videos so long as faces and identities are not revealed. However, in a popular site like pornhub there is what they call a straight section and a gay section and somehow all the male self-pleasuring videos arbitrarily end up in the gay section as if gay guys approve of self-pleasuring but this is not something a straight guy would ever want to do.

A really fun thing to do in a swim brief is to get in a horny “mood” and then pull on the swim brief, making certain that you are just firm enough so that the only semi comfortable way for your penis to be is pointed upward, with the slick cloth of the brief pressing tightly against the ultrasensitive underside of your penis. This is male self-pleasuring nirvana for sure and every male needs a brief (or two, or three..) just to be able to do this on a regular basis.

This is what I call the classic “Christopher Atkins” method of self-pleasuring, made famous in a Dallas Episode where Atkins (as Peter Richards LOL) appears in a standard but very snug fitting Sapphire blue Speedo but with the underside of his penis pressing firmly against the brief material. A mere touch of the brief where this is going on would send him into Speedo brief self-pleasuring nirvana. This all occurs in season 7 episode 4 of the nighttime soap opera “Dallas” now streaming free. And photos of Atkins of this exact situation are also on the Internet.

A lot of readers of this blog are very fond of wearing as skimpy and low-cut swim brief as possible, briefs consisting maybe of a small pouch, string sides and a thong back. In self-pleasuring, to each his own, but this style of brief makes it impossible to engage in the kind of thing Christopher Atkins was up to—as in putting direct slick pressure on the entire underside of the semi-erect and growing penis that I also find so intensely enjoyable.

Go to the video sites such as pornhub, and there are any number of short videos showing a guy masturbating to ejaculation inside a snug-fitting (but not too tiny) swim brief. If you are looking to learn techniques used by other guys this is the place to be. Some guys use their hands—other guys, interestingly, not, and the simple pressure of the tight brief on the underside of the penis is enough for an actual “hands free ejaculation" in only a few minutes.

There are also wrestling singlet masturbation videos. A wrestling singlet is much larger than a swim brief but is made of a similar slick stretchy material. Again, some guys do a hands-on masturbation to ejaculation, with drops of precum creating small spots here and there at various places on the front of the singlet until ejaculation (cumming) occurs and the singlet has lots of “cream” on the front. Other guys do a hands-free version of getting entirely hard with only the pressure from the slick cloth and end up ejaculating anyway.

The fact that getting into and out of a singlet that is just a touch undersized can prove difficult adds to the pleasure, in part because the guy soon feels that he is in a situation where the urge to get harder and then ejaculate is governed in part by a situation that he does not fully control, just being driven in part by being stuck or constrained inside the singlet. For those that have never tried this using a singlet I would argue that this is a not-to-be-missed technique.

Finally, it is time to mention the wonders of the so-called magic wand vibrator with the head capable of multiple speeds and patterns. Let's say you are feeling horny and have your somewhat erect penis pressing hard against the cloth of the brief or singlet. Psychologically too you are already feeling quite good. But the trick is to power up the magic wand, find one of those great stop-start wand vibrator patterns that are so much fun, and then merely touch the vibrator repeatedly to a spot on the underside of your spandex cloth covered penis.

This scheme works so well that you can easily be ejaculating not instantly but maybe in 30 seconds or less. The trick of course is to develop a technique with the vibrator such that you don’t immediately feel those wonderful ejaculatory contractions. This means taking away the vibrating head almost but not quite there and use this as an edging method to build the sexual tension over and over. A penis with its underside pressing firmly against a Spandex-laced material and a magic wand vibrator in the self-pleasuring world is a match made in heaven, and I would be hard pressed to claim that there is anything in the partner sex world that quite matches it for overall sexual pleasure.

The methods I have discussed here take male self-pleasuring to an all-new level, are completely safe, do not result in the transmission of an STD nor a pregnancy, and can be pursued by any male who is in a situation where there is privacy.

[sebbie]

Thong underwear and the sapphire blue Speedo® Part 1

I think I got my first pair of thong underwear in early 1989. Three pairs came in a box each in a different color. The brand name was Hom®. As I recall, thong underwear designed for men had become increasingly popular in western Europe, and maybe in parts of Asia as well, but the design was considered too radical to be salable to the more conservative American males, who at the time were all still wearing cotton briefs or boxers.

From the moment I saw the thongs, I knew I had to have them. I liked to masturbate a lot, but my preferred technique was with the aid of a nylon and then poly/spandex blend swim brief, or by wearing finding the most undersized pair of tighty whiteys and then crawling into the most snug-fitting jeans in my closet. I did a lot of this starting with when I entered adulthood and was out on my own. Maybe too much, I thought, but then there never seemed to be any ill effects and I always enjoyed myself tremendously.

Still, from the moment I made my thong purchase, I knew the thongs were going to be something special. I was not aware of the fact that I was entering a phase that would be like a male master course in male self-pleasuring.

The Hom® thongs were built on what I call the European design—stretchy, poly/spandex-laced fabric, minimal pouch size made from this fabric, skimpy sides. And then there was the back—the wonderful back that consisted of simply an elastic cord only about 3/16 inch in diameter. This cord was so skimpy and stretchy that the only possible way it could fit was positioned not over the butt crack, but deep between the glutes from the top of my butt crack to just behind the male scrotum.

The thin elastic cord had to be connected to the front pouch and the two parts were sewn together, making a lump at the lower end of the pouch just behind the scrotum.

The first problem I faced after removing a thong from the box is what goes where and how to I get into something so stretchy and skimpy? Obviously my penis is supposed to fit inside the pouch. But the ease by which I could do that would be more difficult if I was anything other than fully flaccid, and merely ATTEMPTING to get my penis inside the pouch was making me grow and get hard. The dilemma was that the more I struggled the more difficult it was becoming to get my penis entirely into the pouch.

The other “problem” is what to do with my balls. After struggling and finally after some effort getting my penis inside the pouch, I though that my balls were supposed to be inside not outside the pouch too. Flaccid this could be possible...but already being somewhat erect and hard this would be a real struggle. Somehow I managed but by then I was oozing drops of precum on the brand-new thong pouch. But if I left my balls outside the cord of the back would act like a ball splitter, and I figured that was not the way the thong was intended to be worn at all. Penis and balls belonged inside the little stretchy pouch, together.

The really interesting part was that with both the penis and balls inside the pouch then that little knot that ties the rear cord to the pouch ends up just behind the scrotum. In 1989 I knew nothing about that male sexual hit spot of nerve endings located exactly where the thong knot is positioned, but somehow, I knew I had discovered a hot spot that was making me feel really horny—frankly, the sensation from that spot was blowing me away.

So, what I learned in those early days of attempting to wear the Hom thong that just putting one on was arousing fun. But once in place I should get used to the feel of the cord between my butt cheeks with every step I took. And further, each step stimulated the perineum area by tugging on the cord putting upward pressure on the perineum and tugging on the pouch, a pouch that contained my penis and balls and a situation where I seemed to be getting still harder and oozing precum in those wonderful small, glistening droplets. This stimulation was getting tougher to deal with but more fun minute-by-minute. I could tug at the cord back as well which not only would put neat upward pressure on the perineum as the cord shortened, but also provide more stimulation to my penis inside the snug pouch.

Still, perhaps the most wonderful part of all is the “conflict” that occurs should I (inadvertently LOL) get bugger and harder while in the pouch. The cord back “wants” to pull my penis and balls downward and this happens over and over as I walk and take each step. The sensations tend to make me harder and still more horny. But the pouch is tugging in the opposite direction upward and forward, tugging on the cord in the opposite direction, and as I get bigger and harder the cord shortens putting more upward pressure on my perineum. It goes without saying that this “conflict” is fabulous erotic pleasure.


Continues in subsequent post

[sebbie]

Thong underwear and a sapphire blue Speedo® Part2

Read previous post first!

Sadly, most of the male thongs sold nowadays have bigger pouches and bands at least a half inch wide designed to cover the length of the butt crack (for modesty?). As swim thongs became popular on at least some beaches, the unwritten rule was that it was OK to show butt cheeks uncovered, but an uncovered butt crack is nudity—illegal on many beaches. Unfortunately, most men’s thong underwear nowadays follows the swim thong design with the half-inch wide back designed to fit over the butt crack but not within, and for sheer erotic pleasure the design is not nearly as much fun or arousing.

In my collection I still have a few of the old school thongs with the backs consisting of either a 3/16-inch diameter cord or an elastic band of the same width. I used to wear these thongs as my only undergarment under my snug-fitting jeans and kick back and simply enjoy my body as I walked.

Recently I got to thinking what would it feel like to use one of these thongs as an under liner to a traditional sapphire “Christopher Atkins” style Speedo®? So I find one of my old-school thongs and get myself into it, then immediately pull a classic blue Speedo® on over it. Everything in position. The thong puts my penis forward and upward inside the speedo, but my penis and balls are locked in one position, and I am oozing precum. I crawl into bed, feeling great, but quickly fall asleep.

About 3 AM I wake up and somehow I want to do some checking to see if I am still aroused. Yup! Except that, oddly enough, I feel even closer to an uncontrollable desire to have a full orgasm. This REALLY feels great! Just passing my fingers over the spot where my penis is feels wonderful, and with each pass I come closer and closer to entering the erotic phase with strong, repetitive muscular contractions.

Suddenly this same guy you know who claims that he is able to edge himself for as long as he likes is going into a full-scale orgasm. WOW WOW WOW has this been fun. What made the orgasm so much fun in part was all the edging stimulation from the thong that led up to this situation. I went to bed and fell asleep with a happy smile wearing the snuggest thong and a classic blue swim brief.

Some five hours later I awaken, still feeling really great down there and end this all with the muscular contractions of what turned out to be one of the best full orgasms that I have had in a decade.

Just being a guy is marvelous...do NOT pass up on the opportunities to enjoy being who you are!

Sebbie

[sebbie]

Warmer Weather is here!

After what to me was like an excruciatingly long period for cold temperatures, the thermometer got up to 85 degrees F yesterday, and I got to thinking about how much fun it would be to sleep overnight in a swim brief. The house had gotten to 73 degrees too, so it was more than time to switch over to my summer sleepwear which is only a snug-fitting swim brief. The really interesting part about this is that while a swim brief feels really snug and slick, invariably I just drift off to sleep. Then, like clockwork, I wake up at 3 AM feeling horny as all get out and also invariably my hands and fingers find their way down to the spots that are making me feel horny and I start enjoying myself some more. The only risk here is that I am liking this so much that I will soon end up in full-orgasm mode when I really just want to edge and then fall back asleep, still horny as all get out. It was all I could do to keep from going into an orgasm but somehow, I managed. My male body parts are really enjoying the warmer weather for sure.

If you are new to the idea of wearing only a swim brief as sleepwear, I strongly recommend this. I do not know if your experience will be similar to mine but you can easily find out. The brief need not bee cut too skimpy. For this activity I find a brief with 2 or even 3-inch sides works fine. The whole idea is for the brief to fit snug enough and be made of thick enough but still slick-feeling material to put a steady and firm pressure on everything in your groin area.

[Speedo right now has a “One” Brief that buyers are complaining fits on the small side and you should up-size one or maybe two sizes. But as sleepwear, ordering your normal waist size would probably provide the perfect fit. You want your sleepwear brief to fit tight and snug and give you the psychological feeling that something very important is in a slick but very confined space. but not to the point the tension is so extreme that you have difficulty falling asleep! Finding this exact place takes some research but the research is fun.]

So, this morning I get up, still feeling quite horny from my 3 AM edging session, and I want to continue those sweet sensations all day long! It's been a while since I have felt this good—somehow my sexual activity goes into hibernation in cold weather when the days are short. Invariably, my thoughts turn to going with a thong rather than tighty whitey briefs for the day. You know, a thong where the pouch pushes my penis up and forward even as the back cuts between and then cinches up between my glutes. The back provides a great sensation as whenever I bend forward it cinches up tighter even as my penis is pulling the pouch forward. This competition between the two competing forces is endlessly fascinating and the typical bodily response is to drip.

Of course, I am not going to wander around during the day wearing only an underwear thong. A strap and cup is called for—my favorite old-school jock strap like they wore in the 70s, with a cup just barely big enough to press down on and contain my flaccid penis, a penis that knows the cup is limiting the space for expansion. My little Duke strap and cup is perfect—Wal Mart used to sell these. So, the straps on the strap are crossing my glutes even as the thong back cuts between them, and the cup is “firmly” in position.

But that is not quite enough pressure in my effort to “climb the walls” so to speak. Besides, I am still nearly naked. The solution of course is to put a pair of my favorite Tesla running tights over everything, a new pair I have worn only a few times. I like these because if sized right, they fit like a second skin over my entire lower body, putting more pressure on the cup and adding to the fun. My SM ones are the perfect size for me, 5’10, and 150 lbs.

Still not enough cup pressure? Why not pull a pair of Starter brand knee-length compression shorts over the running tights? That is going to make the pressure on the cup and the stuff underneath even more extreme, and just thinking about this I keep getting hornier and hornier. My penis is now in a place where I could not directly play with myself even if I wanted to. But never mind that, I feel really great down there, and I am happily enjoying myself anyway. Very Happy!

Can I make it through my usual rowing and cycling workout this way? I will see! I will see!

Update 11:30 AM local time. I got through my usual rowing and biking workout...takes about 75 minutes. I really enjoyed myself, especially how the thong back cinched up between my glutes with every stroke of the rower. The constant pressure of the cup bearing down on my penis felt great too and stimulated me to row harder and harder. I'm still feeling way horny, and I am thinking about things to do the rest of the day. The day is young yet. This all started with the stimulation from my night sleeping in the swim brief. The sensations are overwhelming!

[sebbie]

Fun in a Swim Brief (and other stuff, too)

I keep wondering what percentage of guys get horny at the mere thought of getting into a classic swim brief such as a Speedo? Indeed, what percentage of guys like to crawl into a swim brief because it turns them on. Not that many years ago, The idea of a gay sexual relationship, male or female, was something that needed to be kept secret as it was seen by normal people as being abnormal. All that has changed, of course, and being gay is generally thought of as being just as normal as being in a straight (male-female) relationship. But there are a whole series of ideas that now challenge people. Not only the bisexuals, but the transgenders and the nonbinaries, all seeking the status that “ordinary” gay people have of being able to live their lives as normal human beings.

Given all of this, suppose that a guy can get himself aroused simply by crawling into a snug-fitting swim brief, and this same guy becomes very fond of doing so on a regular basis. Except, of course, enjoying one’s own body doing this solo is not accepted as appropriate or “normal” and, besides, no self-respecting guy would ever want to admit that he likes to crawl into a swim brief and get horny and hard. That’s “abnormal” as it is not sex involving another person and a guy who likes to do this needs to spend his entire life keeping this personal secret from anyone else, because the guy does not know how the someone else will react. This is a variation on the problem of the newlywed wife discovering (accidentally, of course) that her husband, despite having her for sex, still likes to masturbate alone in the privacy of the bathroom. And I read stories of “liberated” women who actually enjoy watching their male partner crawl into a really snug-fitting swim brief and watch him get hard as the tension in the groin area builds. Is this fascination on the part of the couple considered normal or not normal?

Then how about two guys who both enjoy getting into and aroused in a swim brief, and they somehow discover that their interest is shared. Does that somehow make both guys gay and disinterested in sex with a female? Or are they just enjoying an activity they both like to do simultaneously, and it seems more fun that way as well? Are these guys somehow abnormal because they are enthusiastic about only this one shared activity? Should this remain a deep secret?

Let me start at the beginning. Nearly every human being likes to engage in self-stimulation, although females sometimes claim to have less interest in this than males normally do. I began learning these techniques at a very early age, and this quickly evolved into a fondness for any type of clothing that fit snug in my groin area. Over time, my collection grew as I found items that worked really well. Most guys masturbate with their hands using the classic slide-and-stroke method. What I do is usually not that, but even more fun, using methods I have honed over my entire life.

Take last night, for example. I was feeling rather horny and decided to sleep in a Desmiit swim brief. These briefs are small, but I have others that are even tighter fitting. I quickly fell asleep. As I have been known to do, I awakened at 3 AM, and started feeling myself. I was feeling hornier than I was when I fell asleep earlier, but there was still something missing. I decided I needed to be out of the swim brief and into a Thong. I pulled out a Papi Thong from the pile. Papi calls their underwear Fun but Functional. This looks like a rather “benign” thong, but it has an uncanny ability to hit all the “right” places. It likes to put upward pressure on the perineum area, a psychosexual “hot spot” of nerve endings located just behind my scrotum. Papi knows exactly where that hot spot is (the fun but functional part). Ahh, that feels good! There is this steady direct pressure that feels wonderful, and my body down there cannot ignore the sensations.

Some guys probably would go into full orgasm mode given what is happening to my body. I just hang in there thinking about how good everything feels, and I fall back asleep. I wake up this morning still feeling way horny and in need of an orgasm, but I will probably spend most of my day in that condition. The thong came off and I am back in my pair of super snug tighty whitey with a Tyr jammer over. Still feels really good down there! I have this edging technique down very well. I might be able to go another day or two in this unrelieved state. No rush for sure!

Think about this: What percentage of guys are so used to being in a swim brief that it does not “bother” them any more? I found this photo of a male Swimmer in a blue Speedo brief in one of their ads. To me, this guy appears to be “enjoying” his new brief a lot. The tension in the groin area must feel great. The situation the Speedo guy finds himself in may sell a lot of snug-fitting briefs for Speedo.

What percentage of guys would like to be in a swim brief that fits as snug as the one the swimmer in the ad is wearing, but, not being an athletic swimmer, are afraid of the questions that might arise if seen wearing a swim brief that snug and tight? What percentage of guys who have worn a swim brief immediately go into what I would call “heavy precum” mode—they are able to keep from going into a full uncontrolled ejaculation but they drip precum and the precum appears as little damp splotches in and around the penis tip given where it is positioned inside the pouch of the suit. These questions deserve a lot more research for sure.

[sebbie]

That’s a snug, fit, but just how I like it! I Miss These Brands and Items from Earlier Times

I admit it! I really enjoy feeling horny. For me, at least, its the best part about being a guy, and the best place to be no matter what. Being horny goes by any number of other names, the most mundane being feeling aroused. But that term does not convey what is really going on when I am feeling horny. Feeling horny for me is a complete experience, mind and body. Feeling “sexual” or “sexy” does not adequately capture what I enjoy so much. My mind is focused on the specific body parts that make me feel so good and want to think about nothing else. When I am feeling horny, I do not want to be distracted.

Even in earlier times, there were clothing items that were almost guaranteed to make a guy feel horny (aroused) Of course, back then, guys never talked about such things but especially not to their male peers. But all the guys kinda knew what might be going on in their minds and bodies. The desire to feel horny is all but universal among males, and maybe more than a little stressful too. Thinking back, I would have been a much happier person back then had I not been so stressed out over the situation. I think what “gets” to most guys is the fear that something might happen (say a full erection, or worse, an out-of-control orgasm). At an early age, guys learn that they must always try and be in control, and an inadvertent erection or orgasm is anything but the kind of control guys want to demonstrate. The erection for no apparent “reason” falls way outside of this effort to have everything under control. Still, if one can get past the sheer fear of an erection or even an orgasm, sheer pleasure may not be far off.

This leads me to my review of clothing items that had (and maybe still have) the ability to get me in a state of arousal. My mind tends to wonder to a guy’s first encounter having to wear something arousing, the classic example being a Speedo swim brief, but this list would also include a jock strap (aka athletic supporter) and maybe even a wrestling singlet or even compression gear in two pieces like a compression shorts and a compression tee.

For me, this all seems very tame at this point in my life, for I have had these items for many decades and can get into them practically any time I want. So far as the compression tees and shorts go, however, I am deeply saddened that the “Starter” brand gear, commonly found at Wal Mart over a decade ago is no longer available. You could always count on the Starter brand for a really snug fit that was like a second skin in both the tees and shorts. I still have a few pair of shorts in reasonably good shape and I am wearing a steel gray pair today as I exercise and write. Still, the snuggest and “toughest” compression shorts I ever owned were the Bollinger brand. I had a white pair and a black pair. I am not sure what happened to the white pair but I still have the black pair, and I still get horny just thinking about wearing them. These are one “mean” pair of compression shorts if you get what I am saying.

Despite never being an athlete in a team sport, I always liked a strap, and the snugger the fit the better. I know a lot of guys preferred the Bike Brand, but I was rather fond of the Duke brand that was also in a Wal Mart display in the Sporting Goods section. And the cups were really fun in that they pressed flat against the groin leaving little room for growth. But the snug fit and the combination of psychological and physical sensations of not having any extra room to grow were part of what made strap wear so much fun. The oversized cups they sell today are not nearly as much fun. Not much can beat a really small nearly-flat cup for sure but those are old school and not easy to find any more.

At some point I was lucky enough to have purchased a Sapphire Blue genuine Speedo swim thong. Speedo carried these for only a short period of time. They designed them to provided a bit more ample rear coverage than the swim thongs being sold today. Still, this thong was a lot of fun. It looks almost like a Solar brief from the front but the rear is a half inch wide strip of cloth that runs up the crack.

No list for me would be complete without mentioning the original Jockey men’s Thong underwear. These were all designed the same but came in various fabrics, the tamest was the one that was mostly cotton but with about 10% spandex. The other fabrics were Spandex/poly blends. In a word, these thongs were “undersized” and when you were wearing one your mind was constantly drawn to what you were wearing. Great fun, but maybe Jockey thought they were scaring off guys from wearing these. But what a treat! I was climbing the walls.

I have always liked tighty whiteys—as in combed cotton briefs, but I quickly discovered I liked these even better if they were undersized—a pair needs to be just big enough that when stretched out goes around my waist. Adult SM was just too big and roomy. But many Boys sizes have near an adult waist size. And were otherwise smaller and snugger fitting. I discovered that a Boys size 14 was about a 28-inch waist, and a Boys 12 was a 26-inch waist, and that I could fit into either. I have the smaller one under my Starter compression shorts today in fact. Feels great. Just the fit I like.

The problem is that it is no longer possible to simply walk into a discount house and find tighty whiteys in boys sizes, although I have been able to find them on line.

My final choice is the Club Swim "Euro" Brief. This was something of a House Brand for the US vendor Swimoutlet.com, but was replaced with swim briefs under the "Sporti" brand name.

I still have several Club Swim briefs in the Euro design. These are classic undersized swim briefs, but could be worn at the pool as "regular" swimwear. The sides are about 2 inches but somehow, they have a smaller fit than the Solar briefs do.

I discovered that the 28-inch waist size fit me well around the waist for me, but the sizing difference was that a 28-incher had a lower rise than the 30-inch size. This looks fine in front, but the 28 inch shows a bit of the butt-crack Y from the rear. Some guys might think this is perfectly OK at the pool, but others maybe not. The 28 incher reminds me of one of the Japanese Aqux suits in this regard.

Still, if you want a suit that says "I need to jerk off!" This is the suit to wear. I wear my Black Club Swim as sleepwear. The newer Sporti Euros are fine. I have a few of those too, but somehow the Club Swim Euro is the one that presses all my buttons!

This concludes my list, for today at least. Back to the rowing machine!