Facts and acceptance

[Byron]

Yes they do, but so tiny there would not be much opportunity to sew a design on them.
The guy on roller skates in Paris had probably cut a bit too high as suggested
(but his fashion statement no doubt)

http://shop.pacsun.com/home.jsp
Interesting to see here that men's shorts appear long but look at women's and you find the cut-offs (and there is the Roxy brand, which brings us full circle to the thread about bikini bottoms)

[California Dolphin]

Regarding Byron's post #13 on this topic, I seriously doubt that many people would actually take the intitiative to contact the management or the owners of any of the main stream clothing stores.

Also the people behind the counter are usually minimum wage employees who don't give a rat's behind about their job other than getting a weekly paycheck.

It's a lot like politics - People bitch and gripe about government, however very, very, very few ever take the intitiative to contact their representative. I know an office worker for the congressional rep for San Francisco area, and she says they only get a few emails a day -at the very most- from the public.

With that kind of apathy for something as serious as government, I don't believe anyone is going to take the intitiative to complain that their department store isn't selling speedos or short shorts.

CD

[Byron]

Quite agree CD - but aren't you contradicting your own post ? (message 6)

[California Dolphin]

Byron, what I meant was that IF people did complain, they would probably get some favorable results. It's a matter of taking the initiative.

By the way American Apparel might be a good place to start making suggestions. American's headquarters and manufacturing operations are located in Los Angeles (instead of China, Mexico, Thailand, etc.) and they also operate their own stores throughout California.

http://www.americanapparel.net/

CD

[Byron]

I didn't know they are so international -
they list stores in nineteen countries now.

(LOL - London has acquired a new area
called Carnaby ) (it's Soho).

[Torchwatch]

Back in the 1970's a group of us school boy runners would individually and frequently go to the 2 sports shops in town seeking running shorts, shoes and spikes.
On each visit the young runner would be told that the shop doesn't stock those items as there is no demand.
We didn't know that the others were doing the same thing.
Occasionally someone might get into London and get running gear there.
It wasn't until the London Marathon began that the local shops started stocking running gear, and new sports shops sprang up to compete for sales.

If your local stores want a share of the specialist sportswear market let them stock the goods, otherwise buy on internet mail order.

The dork shorts are being mass produced in China and the Third World, and sold at prices which even after retail profits are cheaper than buying the fabric and elastic they are made from. If you want better designed sportswear you will have to pay for it.

[California Dolphin]

Here's a simple idea that I'm actually doing.

I've got several pairs of worn out jeans and I'm making them into cutoffs. So I cut them off 1/2 way up from the knee. I'd like to cut them shorter, but any less in length would expose the pockets.

I wear my cutoffs along with traditional athletic socks and sneakers and regardless of what you think about styles in clothing (and their alleged association with a person's sexuality), the pre 90s does in fact look really cool.

Anyway, if you can't find real shorts in the stores, make your own and start wearing them in public and that will be a simple way to make a statement!!!

CD