What to wear?

[sebbie]

Guys Josh’s age—20—like to act as if they learned everything that there is to know about their own bodies from a sexual perspective by the time they got to be 12 or 13 years old. Obviously, they weren’t into sexual relationships at that age, but guy that age think they have a clear understanding of how the stuff that is important works.

What is amazing to understand is that Josh just turned 20, and in his 19th year he learned more about how his male body works and responds perhaps than he had learned from the knowledge he gained accumulated starting at the age of 12. Rooming with Dylan has been a real eye-opener in this regard. College freshmen always go into a situation where they are going to be rooming with another person that they had not even met before and in quarters that leave little if any room for real privacy.

Of course, for guys past puberty, privacy is always an issue, even if a guy is living at home with his parents and siblings. Some guys are fortunate enough to be living in a family situation where they have at least a bedroom of their own. This certainly opens up the possibility of getting to try some stuff in private that a guy would not otherwise get to do. As a guy gets a little older there are occasions where the guy gets left to “do his own thing” while the parents and siblings are away from the house, and these moments, however brief, are always there to be cherished—and to run “experiments” of course with one’s body.

Being a dorm roommate presents a new set of obstacles and barriers, particularly for guys who like to enjoy themselves on a more-or-less regular schedule. Of course, living at home had issues and problems as well. Take for example, a guy who is longing to see how his body might respond to being inside of a snug-fitting pair of swim briefs…let’s suppose that a guy has had those “thoughts” since he was 12, maybe, but he never could figure out a way to explain to his parents why he “needed” a little pair of swim briefs since he was not a member of any swim team, and besides, being honest with his parents was just too embarrassing to even think about doing. Thus the dilemma. Guys are always trying to find ways to run masturbation experiments under the radar, so to speak, without anyone else around them being aware of what was really going on. Swim briefs might be out, but a snug-fitting pair of tighty whiteys might be easier to rationalize, and since the guy is in a rapid growing stage of life, forgetting about one new pair of tighty whiteys that somehow got left in the bottom of a dresser drawer three or four years ago, might be a real possibility for running some snug-and-tight “experiments” given the lack of other viable options.

Still, a lot of the stuff a guy thinks about has to be left till a guy gets out on his own—a college freshman maybe?

This is where Dylan comes into the scheme of things. Josh SUSPECTED that some guys might like the fit and feel of snug fitting swim briefs enough that they would sometimes choose to wear them as underwear under jeans, perhaps skinny jeans, but he had never had “proof” of all of this, that is, until he ended up with Dylan as his roommate. Dylan did this, and regularly. Dylan “knew” where his mind and body was in this regard, and this had become a normal thing for Dylan to do.

One problem is that regular underwear is cheap—heck for tighty whiteys about a buck each if purchased six-at-a-time. But regular swim briefs are comparatively expensive, usually $20 each or more.

That’s where the on-line stores and the skimpy little swim briefs with brands such as Desmiit® and Seobean® come in, briefs that can be purchased for about the same price as a premium brand of mass-market underwear. The Desmiit® brand is particularly interesting in that some of their briefs are marketed as possibly being suitable for wear either as swimwear or underwear.

And the thongs! Josh is very interested in these too, and they are sold in packs of 7. An ideal underwear design under super-skinny jeans for wear to sophomore year classes. Josh is thinking about how the combination of a Desmiit® brief or thong with his new skinny jeans will work as regular wear when attending classes. Josh is mimicking Dylan in this regard, and thinking about this over the summer, and how his body might behave.

Dylan has had an impact on Josh, but, of course, Josh has twisted Dylan all around as well.

Of course, Josh also wants to get some compression gear, both shorts and tees. The super skinny jeans he ordered will look great with a blue compression tee…

And maybe another wrestling singlet, and, of course, a strap or two as well, but which ones?

To be continued….

[sebbie]

Dylan has been thinking about how he is going to approach his sophomore year too, just as Josh has been doing. Dylan’s fondness for snug fitting clothing of various kinds goes back a really long time, at least back to when he was only 11 or 12 years old, and Dylan thinks perhaps even earlier than that. This has been an interesting “puzzle” for Dylan for most of his life.

Despite his familiarity with all of this, Dylan is still perhaps a bit uncertain as to exactly what it is that causes him to experiment with himself the way he does. During most of his high school days, Dylan had pretty well convinced himself that he was the only guy out there who quite enjoyed himself in this way. Well, Dylan had to know that other guys sometimes jerked themselves off when they were feeling a whole lot aroused. But the idea of getting into snug fitting clothing such as swim briefs to do this was something Dylan liked to think about doing but certainly nothing that other guys did or would admit.

Rooming together has been an eye-opener for both Josh and Dylan. Living in a cramped dorm room for an entire school year means that there is little that the other guy does that would not go unnoticed. This is the great “fear” that a lot of guys have about living with another guy in a cramped double room. Not every guy is going to be entirely comfortable in this regard even under the best of circumstances.

The funny part of the story is that Josh was having some of the same misgivings about being in the entire situation that Dylan was having. By the time most guys enter their late teens, they have worked out a so-called jerk-off schedule that seems to make a lot of sense, but life gets complicated when a guy is moving into a dorm room with another guy he is meeting for only the first time. No two guys are likely to operate using the same jerk-off system, and what works for you likely won’t work for me.

But, of course, Josh and Dylan share something in common that they both enjoy doing. Can you say jerking off in snug-fitting clothing? OK sometimes maybe not jerking off so much as just getting into a mode where they are each oozing glistening drops of precum—lots of precum! What fun!

This past year has been quite educational for both Dylan and Josh. Dylan has once and for all answered the question that was always in the back of his mind as in “Do other guys enjoy doing this as much as I do?”
But Dylan has certainly had an impact on Josh as well, in that Josh has discovered things about both his own mind and body that were always there. Josh loves wearing snug-fitting swim briefs and precumming spots of glistening ooze every bit as much as Dylan does. This is all stuff Josh has learned about himself in the past year. Josh knows Dylan likes to wear swim briefs as underwear under his skinny jeans and then head to class and try to make it through the day without getting too distracted (whatever that means) or ooze “too much”.

Dylan knows too that Josh has his own hang ups, in particular Josh’s particular fondness for thong underwear that puts a constant tension on the crack between the glutes. And he knows that Josh loves using these as undergarments beneath a wrestling singlet, and that maybe a neat little strap will be interesting too. And Dylan realizes that this year he will no longer need to make any attempt to be secretive about these various items when Josh is in the room. In fact, quite the opposite.

So, as Dylan is picking out the items that he will take back to school with him all of this is bouncing around in his head. Dylan knows that Josh will have no problem with any of it. In fact, quite the opposite. It’s merely a matter of finding the specific items that will send Dylan and Josh into this special place where precum flows freely and both of them feel super good about themselves and their bodies.

This will be an interesting school year for both Dylan and Josh for sure. Could any other pair of college roommates be so lucky to have found each other?

To be continued….

[singletlover]

Lets get summer vacation over with and get these boys back together.

Thanks for the writing.

[sebbie]

The calendar is moving forward, and it’s time for Dylan and Josh to head back to school for the sophomore year. The way this works is that the students move back into the dorm rooms over the weekend, and the classes start on Wednesday of the following week. For new roommates, this gives both of them a chance to get acquainted with who they are going to be rooming with for the coming school year.

But, in Josh and Dylan both already are well acquainted with each other so there is no need for time to just get to know each other. The previous year has been an interesting time for both of them. They both learned more about each other than they had ever quite imagined. Still, nothing that happened last year put any real strain on their relationship as male college roommates in a cramped dorm room. In fact, quite the opposite. They had both learned stuff about each other that neither of them ever thought that they would be able to observe, close up. They both found out that the other was turned on by a bunch of stuff that didn’t involve members of the opposite sex. Yet they both still thought of themselves as sexually being straight.

The interesting thing about all of this is that we have not heard anything about either Josh or Dylan dating females over the summer months. That fact is certainly, well, interesting, given that both of them are both horny 20-year olds. Instead, they both found themselves ordering articles of snug-fitting clothing on line. Quite curious, one might conclude. But then, perhaps not so surprising when each of them discovered that the “right” pieces of snug-fitting clothing tends to have the effect of turning on the precum “faucet”. What crazy fun!

Plus, each of them knows that realizing the other is affected this way is in itself a turn-on is fascinating as well. Dylan practically went bananas last semester when he realized that Josh was jerking off and precumming profusely in that little underwear thong. And Josh got horny just thinking about Dylan sitting in class wearing that little swim brief under his skinny jeans. Both of them were so affected by all of this that this year they both want to make certain that they get to both do more of the same,…lots more!

Is this a gay thing, or not? Would ANY guy get aroused if faced with the same situation, or only guys who mainly think they get aroused by being with and around other guys? Is the answer to this question somehow important, or not?

Neither Dylan nor Josh know the answer to this question

Even though they picked up ideas by observing Bill and Joe, who seemed perhaps to be further toward the gay side of the gay-straight scale in terms of what they were doing with each other, or maybe not. Who knows? Why does this even matter at all? These are weighty questions, but questions that may not need to be answered.

So Dylan is wondering what Josh will be wearing to class and the same for Josh. Both of them ordered Pac Sun super skinny jeans. Josh is going to be wearing the light blue denim pair he picked mainly because he likes the ones Dylan wore a lot of the past year.

Getting the right fit in a pair of skinny jeans can be a bit tricky. Some guys seem to think that a proper cut has a really narrow 11-inch ankle opening, but the ankle opening is only part of the fit. There are really three areas that matter, the butt, the thighs and the cut over the calf muscles. The muscular, athletic guys need to be really concered about fitting the jeans in these areas, particularly if they are well developed in the glutes, thighs and calves.

Both Dylan and Josh put on some muscle over the summer. Still, they are not super athletic. They both have bodies that have filled out a bit more but particularly in the calves and thighs. The stretch denim Pac Sun jeans work for them in the 31W x 30 inseam, but the fit is nearly skin tight in those areas.

Truth is, Josh’s sophomore body looks great in the light blue denim skinny jeans he picked out. But what has Dylan chosen? Why solid black, of course!

Dylan and Josh are both wearing rather snug-fitting stretch tees as well, tees that just accentuate the new summer muscles. Dylan’s tee is in a heather gray—Josh’s a navy. So, we have Josh and Dylan meeting once again for the first time this semester dressed in these items.

Of course, both of them are secretly wondering what the other is wearing UNDER the super skinny jeans, but that is a story for another day…Even on this first fall encounter, both of them are feeling, well, horny. What will the coming year hold?

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Why is it so much fun for a guy to feel horny? That is an endlessly fascinating and not easily-answered question that I have pondered off and on over my entire life. What I am talking about is definitely not the same thing as having a male orgasm. As it turns out, male orgasms are generally not that complicated to understand and usually come and go so to speak in a minute or two. It is instead the events that may or may not lead to a male orgasm that is the most complicated and interesting to explore in detail. A lot of guys get so fixated on the final orgasm part that they fail to pay attention to all the wonderful stuff that happened from the very moment they started feeling something down there.

Think about Dylan and Josh and what has been going on with respect to the events leading to where they both find themselves today, a day or so before college starts for the year. Think about where they both are right now, back in that cramped little dorm room with the showers and johns a walk down the hall of that old school dorm. Think about all the things that happened to them both during their freshman year and what they learned about each other in the past year. Think about what they have been doing this summer, picking out clothing items that likely were bound to make each of them feel horny as much of the time as possible.

Feeling horny is not something for only guys of only one sexual orientation. This is for guys who think of themselves as gay, straight or even something in between. This is not about sexual orientation and it’s not about whether or not a guy is involved in a relationship with a sexual partner whether that partner be a female or a male. It’s really about each guy getting the most out of his own body and constantly discovering new ways to explore how a guy’s body is capable of making him feel good—really what the very best of human life for a guy is all about.

Standard “textbook” treatments of this sort tend to divide sexual activity into two basic types, the first involving a partner and the second being solo sex often derogatively called masturbation (as if the latter needs to be treated as somehow inferior or second rate compared to the real thing with a partner). At least, that is how the so-called experts in sexual psychology depict what is going on.

A basic problem with this way of thinking is that partner sex in any form often quickly leads to situations that become unduly complicated, dangerous or create other serious relationship issues. This is a lot of baggage to try to deal with, so to speak. Sometimes, perhaps frequently a guy might instead simply want to kick back and enjoy his own body and the interesting sexual sensations his body is capable of creating. Despite what some of the the so-called sex experts claim, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. A guy should never feel guilty or somehow disadvantaged because for whatever reason he is not having sex with a partner, male or female.

So, what do we know about Dylan and Josh? First, they both love snug-fitting clothing of various sorts, not only swim briefs but things like skinny jeans, jock straps, thong underwear, wrestling garb, compression gear, and they both realize that such items quickly make them feel horny and start to ooze interesting glistening drops of precum. Further, they both realize that oozing precum is critical to feeling really good in this regard.

Second, both Dylan and Josh are comfortable that each other knows about the “afflictions” each has as well and they are each no longer embarrassed or afraid that the other will somehow learn too much about this. For a lot of males, being comfortable observing and talking about such things would be quite a leap, a big deal so to so speak. Somehow, Dylan and Josh have worked their way through that, something that happened when they discovered that they both were very fond of various kinds of snug-fitting clothing. This sharing of interests broke the ice with respect to talking about the topic and sharing ideas and thoughts.

Indeed, they have both pretty much resolved some of the key puzzles that haunted them as teenagers regarding the question of whether or not all of this is unique to me…all of it, the skimpy clothing, the precum, etc etc, the closely guarded “secrets” teen males normally have—secrets that frequently involve specific masturbation techniques.

But this all just keeps getting more and more interesting as we watch Dylan and Josh share information about stuff that is not often shared. Remember last year when Dylan practically went bonkers when he happened on Josh in the dorm room accidentally? You know, the time Dylan accidentally “caught” Josh jerking off in that little thong with the elastic band that was cutting between Josh’s glutes? Of course, the thong was helping to make Josh feel horny and Josh was just discovering how interesting all of this was for his own mind and body. But it took Josh only an instant to realizing that what he was doing with Dylan present was having a real impact on Dylan as well. Who would have ever thought that a little thong would have such a psychological impact on both of them.

Dylan may not have fully realized it, but Dylan had a substantial impact on Josh as well, particularly on those days when Josh went off to class wearing his skinny jeans over a swim brief. Josh knew that Dylan had to be feeling pretty horny wearing that combination. Again, not an issue that often comes up in casual conversation between two guys.

So what now? Dylan and Josh are rooming together again this year, and at some point the Pac Sun jeans will come off. Interestingly, Josh is wearing a thong underneath. Josh is hoping that the thong will affect Dylan the same way this year as realizing that makes Josh feel even hornier.

What is Dylan wearing under his new black Pac Sun super skinny jeans? I suspect that most of my readers thought maybe a Seobean or Desmiit swim brief, but no, Dylan is wearing a simple pair of Hanes tighty whiteys. Well, not simply a normal pair a pair of super undersized ones in what in US sizes is a Boys medium 12-14. Dylan has been messing around with something interesting. He has discovered that guys can severely undersize tighty whiteys. The waist band on a 12-14 boy’s size will, if pressed, can stretch to a 31-inch waist. But the underwear will be really snug all around—snug enough to hold the penis neatly in an “up” position. This not only makes the skinny jeans look extra cool, it also starts the formation of precum right at the penis tip. Dylan loves the sensations and the crystal clear drops that are happening to and with his body. Will Josh notice what is happening to Dylan as Dylan gets out of the jeans? Will Dylan notice the details of Josh’s “predicament”? They are both in a most interesting situation, a situation that may tend to grow even more interesting.

As some of my readers follow the story line, perhaps they will be motivated to themselves try some of the things Josh and Dylan are doing to themselves as they discover their bodies. As I have said countless times, any part of a guy’s penis is sensitive to the touch, but the underside particularly so. The reason Dylan likes the undersized tighty whiteys so much is that it is easy to put his penis forward in the undersized underwear relative to the usual position in larger sizes, and just a fleeting touch on the underside sends him off to a wonderful new place unlike anywhere he has been before.

To be continued….

[sebbie]

Dylan and Josh at some point are going to have to remove their jeans, and reveal to each other what they each are wearing underneath. Josh fully realizes that Dylan is “sensitive” to seeing Josh in a men’s thong, and he set himself up to have some “fun” by “teasing” Dylan in this regard. Josh very much wants to see Dylan “squirm” in response as well.

So, nothing has been said before, but over the summer Josh managed to prowl the Internet underwear sites looking for the exact item that he thought might best “get” to Dylan. He ended up at the Freshpair® Web site, and found a Thong on sale called the DOREANSE® Ribbed Modal T Thong. That thong is interesting in that it consists of a snug pouch, a narrow elastic waistband, and a narrow cord that holds the pouch in place while cutting deeply between Josh’s glutes. And it fit’s Josh’s budget because it is on sale.

Josh thinks this would be the perfect undergarment for his newly acquired Pac Sun super skinny jeans. Plus, Josh keeps thinking over and over about how Dylan might react when he sees Josh wearing a thong that fits that snug, especially between the glutes. Is this the part that gets Dylan so interested? Josh can’t help but precum a little just thinking how Dylan might respond seeing Josh in the slick-fitting thong.

Oddly enough, Dylan instead has gone the tighty whitey route. Dylan picked up a 6-paick of Hanes® Tighty whiteys that are SERIOUSLY undersized (Boys 12-14) given Dylan’s nominal 31-inch waist size. Dylan tried wearing a pair of these last summer, and discovered that the waist band is able to stretch just enough to fit his 31-inch waist, but the brief itself has to stretch a lot as well. When Dylan looked at himself in the mirror, the little tighty whitey looked almost like a bikini brief it was stretched so much horizontally to fit.

But, when Dylan finally got himself in, he started feeling really good, good in a way that he had never quite felt before and starts to precum almost immediately. His mind immediately was focused on how his entire groin area was feeling, He quickly discovered that his penis was much “happier” in an up position than down, and that in that position, the underside, even barely touched, felt really really good. Interestingly, what Dylan was doing to himself quickly became a total experience involving both his mind and his body. He quickly started to drip a little precum right at the tip of his penis, and Dylan loved the moment as his mind and body worked in partnership to give him back some really neat experiences.

So here we have two College sophomores in their dorm room, now stripped out of their respective pairs of PacSun ® super skinny jeans—Josh in that little thong he bought, Dylan in the way undersized tighty whiteys. Both of them are enjoying their bodies immensely---that is easily revealed by the quantity of precum they are oozing.

And of course, the two penises are both starting to fill with blood. The snug fit of both pairs of underwear might not be as much of a consequence had this not also been happening.

Each underwear design responds differently to a growing erection. In the case of the thong, the increased size not only stretches the pouch but puts more and more tension on that tiny band of elastic between the glutes. Josh thinks that the sensation of the tightening elastic is more than interesting, and his body responds by growing his penis a bit more, adding to the gradually increasing tension and the building sensations.

Meanwhile, Dylan has “issues” to contend with of his own. The tighty whiteys he is wearing are, well, tight, made worse (or perhaps better) by the way undersized fit. Who ever thought such a commonly available item as a pack of cotton briefs could be so interesting? Dylan is really focused now on the sensations emanating from the underside of his growing penis.

And, of course, Dylan is watching Josh struggle with his little thong, and thinking that he needs to get himself one of those. Meanwhile Josh is starting to realize that Dylan has put himself in an interesting predicament as well. Both of them are wondering if they have discovered stuff that most guys are clueless about, or do guys routinely try stunts like this more regularly than they ever dare admit. An interesting question, for sure!

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Within the animal kingdom, human beings are one of only a few species that can actually touch and fondle their own sexual organs. We share that characteristic with other primates, but most other mammals would find that very difficult if not impossible to do. Non-mammals in general have it even worse in this regard, though anyone who has ever owned a male pet such as a dog realize that animals too sometimes get spontaneous and very obvious erections despite not being able to touch themselves. (Well, this happens to guys sometimes as well).

Guys can consider themselves fortunate that they can experience sexual sensations and feelings without necessarily having to rely on the cooperation of another person. Indeed, it is often the “other person” part that is so problematic for many guys.

Think of all of this in the context of Josh, who is wearing that snug-fitting little thong that he ordered. The thong is quite simple, consisting merely of an elastic waist band, a cotton pouch and a narrow elastic band connecting the waistband to the base of the pouch.

Last night, as I was getting ready for bed myself, I was thinking about what would happen if Josh decided to wear his little thong to bed all night long. I found a thong in my collection that is very similar to the one Josh purchased, and I then tried to replicate as close as possible what would happen.

First off, the pouch that Josh is wearing cannot be very roomy. I got to thinking about this in some detail. My mind started to wander into the topic of how companies that make underwear for men operate when they are developing a new design, particularly a new design similar to the one that Josh and I are wearing. Someone must realize that the market for men’s underwear extends beyond the purely practical. Dare I suggest that some men occasionally might buy underwear of a certain design knowing full well that whatever it is, it will likely end up being used for jerking off. Then my mind wanders over to the designers and whether or not the designers openly reveal that this could be a possible reason for a purchase.

I have no idea what percentage of the men’s underwear market is focused on developing styles primarily for engaging in “self abuse”. This market could actually be quite large, particularly in the underwear that costs over, say, $10. At some point, if you are an underwear manufacturer, you probably need to somehow recognize that there could be money to be made selling to this market.

Some of the designs, including those similar to the designs Josh and I are wearing, seem to be constructed in ways that make it very difficult for a guy NOT to get aroused. I found out last night that just getting everything into the little pouch was not that easy, The penis fits OK if I am not that hard yet, but the problem is that a guy’s balls have to fit in there as well. Things get crowded, quickly. Exactly how crowded things get is a combination of design and sizing.

In the case of this style of pouch, getting everything that needs to be indoors inside is not that easy, and a guy’s balls often want to stay outside where they would be divided by the elastic band. So, a guy has to grasp his balls and make sure the pouch is holding them. This maneuver tends to push everything upward and forward. In the process, the guy also discovers that his balls are much more sensitive in a psychosexual way than he perhaps realized when they were just hanging down in loose-fitting underwear. But this is all part of the discovery process, and getting yourself correctly positioned within the pouch is part of the fun.

Personally, I like the sensations I get from my groin area when everything is where it should be, and I presume that Josh feels the same way about this. For guys who are wary about doing this, I would advise you not to knock the whole idea until you try it. Josh thinks it’s a fun place to be, and so do I.

Of course, if you start to grow a bit once you are in, don’t despair. This simply adds to the enjoyment as well. How much and exactly what you share at this point with a roommate or partner is entirely up to you. The only thing I would say is that for another person, seeing a guy in this situation might be, well, interesting.

So, I crawled into bed wearing this, and I am assuming Josh tried doing the same thing. By then I was starting to feel pretty good but I had no trouble drifting off to sleep. Nor would Josh, probably.

At 4:30 AM I awakened. The narrow elastic cord that connected the back to the pouch up until then seemed pretty benign. I was aware of its presence, but my main attention was directed toward the pouch. I had drifted off to sleep not stroking my penis, but rather pressing on my balls through the thong pouch in a series of light but incessant taps. This was making me feel horny and good, but I wasn’t in any imminent danger of blowing, in fact I more or less fell asleep doing this. It seemed like a really neat way to drift off.

When I awakened at 4:30 AM, however, the elastic cord between my glutes was making its presence known. I did a quick check and during the night it had gone way deep. I got to wondering if the same thing happened to Josh or not.

Using my fingers, I followed the cord along to the point where it connects to the pouch at the pouch base. I have long known that this particular spot just behind the scrotum is very much a male psychosexual hot spot, so to speak, with lots of nerve endings that seem hard-wired right into my brain. The beauty of the thong is that with your balls inside the pouch, this hot spot is right out there in a place that seems made to order to touch and fondle.

I started pressing with the tips of my fingers on exactly that spot. At first, I was OK, but not more than a few presses and I was feeling really really good in my situation. I wonder if Josh has discovered this. A lot of guys, I suspect are ignorant.

The more times I pressed the more aroused I became. Keep in mind that I am not even touching or stroking my penis at all, just tapping with my fingertips in a very special and wonderful place.

To make a long story short, I had no intention of getting off that way, but I quickly convulsed into an orgasm that could not be stopped. I had intended to make it through the entire night, and I would have too, had I not been awakened by the sensations of that elastic cord cutting between my glutes.

I wonder if Josh has discovered all of what is there to enjoy. Maybe he can even start to teach Dylan a thing or two about Dylan’s own body!

To be continued…