What to wear?

[sebbie]

Part of what is fun here is that Josh and Dylan are playing “games” of sorts with each other, games that relate directly to who each of them are as sexual human beings. This is curious stuff that they are both engaging in, to say the least.

Every guy, Josh and Dylan included, goes through a period in adolescence where he learns about himself and his body in unique and special ways. Part of this learning experience involves a gradual realization that certain parts of their bodies are more sensitive to touch than other parts of their bodies. How this all works is a gigantic mystery at first. I guess most guys at some point develop a realization which suggests that some of this must somehow have something to do with another person, but that part is frequently deeply confusing, at least at first. A basic question is how a guy can somehow suddenly start to feel horny and even get an erection when there is no touching involved at all. Let alone another person. There is a physical component to all of this to be sure, but also a mental component, and the mental component can sometimes go off in seemingly goofy, yet ultimately strange and wonderful ways.

Take the experiences Dylan and Josh just had trying on swim briefs that kept getting smaller and snugger with each successive brief. At some point, their strained bodies (and minds) simply couldn’t “take” the combination of physical and psychological pressure they were under, and both of them simply “had” to ejaculate even before even getting into the snuggest and tightest brief.

What makes this more amazing, is that this did not in any way involve what might be called a sexual relationship with a partner (or in some strange way, did it?). Merely two guys having some interesting fun with their own respective bodies, attempting an experiment to see what their limits were in this regard. Certainly this says nothing about the ultimate sexual orientation for either of them, or does it somehow? Just two guys who have discovered an interesting jerk-off method. And guys almost invariably are fond of the discovery process for uncovering new and unique ways to jerk off. It is more-or-less built into a guy’s genes (and maybe his jeans as well) to be interested in uncovering this.

But still, Josh obviously enjoyed seeing Dylan struggle with his predicament, and Dylan likewise. Josh might not want to admit it, but just watching Dylan struggle coping with his growing erection was quite a turn-on. Same for Dylan watching Josh attempt to cope with the situation at hand. Does this mean that Josh and Dylan are actually two closeted gay guys? Well, maybe it is best for now to not to even attempt to answer that. Except maybe I should say that there are probably far more guys who would be interested in being part of a situation Josh and Dylan gpt themselves into than there are guys who claim to be gay. If being straight or gay is not a 0-1 either-or kind of thing, but rather a 0-5 continuum, then maybe Dylan and Josh can claim to be somewhere in the middle of the scale. But wait, as a practical matter, is there ANY guy out there who would not like to be either Dylan or Josh in such a situation if he could do so without somehow getting “labeled” as “being gay” in so doing? A most interesting question to be sure. What I am hinting at is that the vast majority of guys if not all might be interested in changing places with Dylan or Josh if the opportunity presented itself, no strings or sexual orientation labeling baggage attached. This is deep stuff for each guy to think about, really deep, complicated stuff at the core of who each of them is as a person and as a human being.

But, for now, back to the presents Dylan and Josh bought for each other. Neither Dylan nor Josh would be in the mindset they were in had they both not thought that their shopping would lead to some new “situations” to uncover and to struggle with. But snug-fitting running tights and what amounts to compression shorts masquerading as underwear are both a little different from swim briefs of various sizes. Each of the items provides a fit and feel that is unique. The running tights are most interesting given how they fit really snug through the calf and ankle; the shorts fit really snug in the thigh area. Neither of these areas would not be considered sexually “active” pars of a guy’s body, or would they? Something “drew” Dylan and Josh to these items and to the conclusion that they might be “sexually active” Not in the way the really tight-fitting swim briefs were, but active nonetheless. What happens next is entirely up to Dylan and Josh. There is some reason why even Walmart carries this stuff, even though Walmart may not fully understand what is going on. Hey, if guys are somehow buying it, then Walmart should be selling it!

A lot of “goofy stuff” is going on right now. More swim teams are back to wearing briefs at least the top swimmers are. Walmart is selling underwear that looks more like compression gear than underwear. Loose-fitting boxer shorts are. apparently losing favor with guys, and Walmart and other places that do not specialize in sports gear are selling running tights. Jeans for men contain Spandex® and are nearly skin-tight. SOMETHING is going on relative to only a few years ago for sure, but what?

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Given what Dylan and Josh have already been through, you wouldn’t necessarily think that these latest items (gifts) that Josh and Dylan are exchanging would be any big deal at all. Think back on all the stuff that Dylan and Josh have been through already and the various situations each has found himself in already. The straps, the cups, the super-snug wrestling singlets, the thong underwear, not to mention the most recent “failed” attempts by each to try on swim briefs of decreasing sizes. Combine that with the incidents whereby each of them has watched the other guy simply jerk off in some type of gear to the point where he couldn’t “take” the pressure any more and “had” to shoot semen, and you start to realize that this has been a most interesting “journey” for both of them a journey that has taken each of them to “places” that as guys they had each never been before.

What kinds of places, anyway? On the surface this all appears to be rather tame stuff that Dylan and Josh are doing compared with the situations some college freshmen males get themselves into---too much alcohol, experimentation with drugs, sex with girls that might or perhaps might not be totally consensual, a pregnancy, an STD, perhaps serious or not-so serious. The list of possible ways that male college freshmen can get themselves into real trouble quickly is quite long indeed.

But, both Dylan and Josh are good kids, and neither of them are the kinds of individuals who are seeking to make a mess of their lives with a bad decision or two that might be made in only one or two reckless moments. Think about that as you read this. Dylan and Josh are both smart-and-capable students who are not prone to attempting to fulfill reckless urges at the drop of a hat. At first, that may seem like a silly thought, but it is not. Dylan and Josh remain who they each are, capable and somewhat shy, sensitive young men. I think it is important to recognize that even smart, capable, shy and sensitive young men still have “normal’ male urges, urges that simply cannot be ignored for significant periods of time. Pretending that guys like Dylan and Josh somehow “escaped” having such urges is a rather silly idea too.

Most guys know that male urges sometimes pop up in unexpected ways, places and times. I’m not sure exactly what was going on with Dylan and Josh over their winter break, but something really interesting was triggered when each of them was rather nonchalantly wandering through their respective local Walmart stores over the break. It is relatively easy to understand why each of them might be “interested” upon seeing some snug-fitting clothing items just hanging there on a clothing rack. At this point I think most of my readers realize that there is something going on in both of their brains that has “programmed” both of them to be “on the watch” for such items. Whatever that is, it is programmed way deep in the psyche. Not something that either of them would care to share with anyone (other than, perhaps, each other). Certainly not something a guy would share with his parents, siblings or most any other peer, male or female. So this gets to be complicated stuff to for a guy deal with, really complicated stuff. What makes this all most interesting is that both Dylan and Josh know enough about each other that each of them at least suspects that the other one would be interested too. I think all of my readers know exactly what I am attempting to communicate here.

For guys who share the “problem” that Dylan and Josh have, it is somehow reassuring to be at a point where there is (at least) one other person who you are comfortable sharing your problem with. Oddly, enough for guys, this other person is probably not going to be a person of the opposite sex, as in a female.

Why this is normally true gets into some complicated stuff as well. The short version is that there is nothing in the female psyche that works quite the way certain items of snug-fitting clothing work for many males. Soon I am into some really deep stuff about whether Josh and Dylan’s “behavior” in this regard is commonplace or relatively rare among young males as a group. Then I start asking myself if there are a lot of guys out there who deep down would like very much to be in the place and time where Dylan and Josh are, or few, if any.

Of course, the big elephant in the room is still the issue of where Dylan and Josh each fall on the scale depicting sexual orientation. Is their fascination with snug-fitting clothing along with seeming enjoyment of seeing each other masturbate to ejaculation simply an indicator that both Dylan and Josh are simply closeted gay guys who by accident ended up being roommates?

Right now, I do not know the answer to that question. Maybe if I keep writing chapters I will eventually find the answer. For now, let me say that it has taken both Dylan and Josh some courage to get to the place where they are right now. It is not every college freshman who would feel comfortable with the whole idea of buying his roommate such a personal gift, let alone a gift that each of them suspected might lead to a situation whereby each might get to watch the other jerk off in the new item.

For now, I will stop with all of this deep analysis and let my readers contemplate what the future for Dylan and Josh might hold. How would YOU, me reader, feel if YOU were the recipient of one of these gifts, and all that implies?

To be continued (of course)….

[sebbie]

As most of you probably already realize, Dylan and Josh were off for about two weeks winter break extending from just before Christmas to just after New Years’ day. What college freshmen do during this winter break is always a rather interesting topic. For Dylan and Josh, the winter break coincides with the break between fall and spring semesters. The week just before the break is always a very busy time for college students, as they are ordinarily being tested on all the things they supposedly learned since classes began in late August.

Students ordinarily have their grades sent to their permanent address. Of course, Dylan and Josh ordinarily get mail in boxes at the dorm, but colleges normally like to send grades out to the student’s home not dorm address, which means that final grades for the semester ordinarily are going to be obtained during the winter break at the home address.

Turns out, both Dylan and Josh did quite well. The college grades on a 5-point scale. Dylan’s average over all the courses he took turned out to be 4.78. Josh’s overall grade point average was only slightly lower, at 4.54. So, both of them did quite well.

Not that Dylan and Josh did not have an assortment of “distractions” during the semester, but the distractions did not appear to affect either student’s grade point average. That is good to know. The parents of both Dylan and Josh had to be quite pleased with respect to how this all turned out, and normally are willing to give more “rope” or freedom in any instance where the child is doing well grade-point wise.

Still, these two-week long breaks can be boring times for college freshmen. They are stuck living with their parents and siblings even if for only a limited period of time. What does a guy do? One possibility is to look up peer high-school grads also home on winter break and do some things like going to movies etc. What happens here is probably linked to whether the classmate is male or female. Did either Dylan or Josh have female “flames” in high school? Well, yes and no. Both of them had certain female friends they liked better than other female classmates, but neither “went steady” in high school. And things change, particularly as first-semester freshmen for both the guys and the young women. Reestablishing these old connections may or may not be that easy to do.

Then there are other complications to being back home with your parents and siblings for two full weeks. Old complications like the same old problem of figuring out ways to jerk off without being detected or noticed. Male hormones keep “acting up” even on winter break. How to cope with this, anyway? Neither Dylan nor Josh packed home their favorite jerk-off clothing items. To be sure, that would be too obvious and cause issues if parents or siblings somehow discovered them, even inadvertently. So both of them basically have to revert back to surreptitious night-time jerking-off. Not as difficult as not being able to jerk off at all, but given where Dylan and Josh have been in this respect, not the most exciting way for a guy to deal with his male urges, either.

Still, I found it interesting that both Dylan and Josh managed to work in Walmart shopping trips involving purchases for the other intended for use during a jerk-off session. And once they got back to the dorm they certainly weren’t talking (bragging) about intimate encounters with females during the break, not that either Josh or Dylan would be prone to do that. The big question of course is exactly how profound these dorm room mutual jerk-off sessions have been for each of them relative to what they might have found themselves doing or not with females they might have interacted with during the winter break back home.

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Changes in clothing design for men and boys have been rather drastic over the past 5 years or so with this happening on a bunch of different levels. Take denim jeans for example. Not that long ago, guys were all wearing very loose-fitting jeans through the butt; thigh and leg, with very wide leg openings, 17 inches and larger, often much larger, and practically everything said “Relaxed fit” on it. Same with shirts. Nothing was labeled as form-fitting or athletic fit, and all the shirts you could find seemed to be designed to accommodate a guy whose waist size was bigger than his chest size, often far bigger.

Then take the subject of adding Spandex® to denim, so that the denim stretched a bit and as a consequence became more form-fitting. Not that long ago, the discussion centered on the notion that only women would “accept” that idea and it was a “girly” thing to do. But as jeans got slimmer and snugger for men, this taboo was lifted as well. And it is now commonplace to find men’s skinny jeans with leg openings as narrow as 11 inches,,,just big enough to pull over your feet!

So, why am I writing all of this here? I got to thinking about what works or doesn’t work as an undergarment UNDER jeans that fit so snug and tight. With loose-fitting jeans, it was commonplace for guys to wear loose-fitting boxers underneath. This wasn’t any real problem. But try to wear that style with snug-fitting skinny jeans and you can see the potential problem. You don’t want to be able to see the outline of whatever you are wearing underneath as clumps of lumpy cloth.

So, where I come out on all of this is that snug-fitting jeans go hand-in-hand with undergarments that are much more form-fitting than before. I know a lot of jokes are made about the old school “tighty whitey” briefs, but in many ways they are a whole lot more suitable for wearing under skinny jeans than the loose-fitting cotton boxers. But there are other snug-fitting possibilities as well, maybe even leading to resurgence in the popularity of men’s thong underwear.

What about a swim brief worn as underwear under skinny jeans? A swim brief would actually work quite well for that purpose. We are seeing a resurgence in the appearance of swim briefs as the appropriate garb for swim teams, again something that only a few years ago would have been all but unheard of. Maybe even an “old school” jock strap, though that may be pushing it just a bit.

Form-fitting clothing seems to be once again becoming commonplace for guys irrespective of age or sexual orientation. This is a good thing for a host of reasons, starting with the idea that it was probably unwise to attempt to discern a guy’s sexual orientation based solely on the fit of his clothes. But there are other subtle effects. For example, there is a lot of concern over the fact that people of both sexes over a long period of time have been becoming less fit with poor high fat and sugar-laden diets and a lack of exercise. If wearing the latest clothing styles also entails improving one’s fitness and diets, there could be some positive psychological benefits.

For that matter, looking good in a swim brief probably entails focusing on much the same diet and fitness goals. I don’t mean to suggest here that swim briefs are for only the fittest among us, but merely to suggest that if one chooses to follow a better diet and fitness program in order to look better in a swim brief, that is certainly a positive psychological incentive to make the necessary lifestyle changes,

And then there are the other kinds of gear, the compression tees and shorts, the running tights etc, the gear that Dylan and Josh are messing with right now. Same deal, pretty much.

The recent increased popularity of skinny jeans has perhaps set off a host of changes not only what many guys ordinarily wear as jeans, but also possible change is what guys ordinarily wear UNDER their new jeans. And, to the extent that these trends tend to move guys into a “let me try and be fitter” mode of thinking, that can be good as well, not to mention mixing up the antiquated ideas about what a guy’s sexual orientation might be based on the clothes he chooses to wear.

To be continued….

[Lap Counter]

Originally Posted by sebbie

Maybe even an “old school” jock strap, though that may be pushing it just a bit.

The recent increased popularity of skinny jeans has perhaps set off a host of changes not only what many guys ordinarily wear as jeans, but also possible change is what guys ordinarily wear UNDER their new jeans.

Sebbie, that isn’t pushing it, even a little bit.

Back when old school jockstraps were still common, I don’t think wearing one under jeans was that unusual. My college roommate started wearing one daily under his Levi 501s midway thru our sophomore year. Of course, that inspired me to give them a try, too. I wore one daily for about 6 months, but that eventually evolved into only doing it on days when I rode my bike to school.

The jock kept everything centered in my Levi’s, preventing “snake down the leg”, while presenting a nice package. Wearing a jock made me feel quite studly and well protected. But I wasn’t into hearing the “Are you wearing a jock? Why?” comments when the waistband accidentally popped over the top of my jeans when I bent over.

I knew another guy who grew up on a ranch and wore a jock under his Lee Wranglers while working the spread. (in Colorado, farmers and ranchers wear Lees and scoff at Levi guys as being city kids).

More recently fashion jock straps have become common, probably at least in part because of the trend towards skinny jeans.

[sebbie]

Every guy goes through puberty in a slightly different way, and yet shares a lot with his peers males the same age. Sometimes it is thought that of the two, the process of going through puberty is generally more difficult for girls turning into young women than it is for boys in the process of becoming young men. But puberty is at best a most difficult time for both boys and girls.

Guys quickly learn that having an erection is something that happens when you are connected with a female, and any other circumstance is weird, abnormal, or worse. Of course all of this is a myth. Guys get erections for all sorts of reasons only one possibility being a visual, psychological or physical connection with a female. But, the myth makes guys feel really embarrassed if an erection occurs under any other circumstance or even for what seems to be no reason at all. It’s bad enough to be in this situation in private, but what if my male peers somehow discover what is happening to me? Will they tease and bully me? Will they label me a queer? Will they call me a jerk-off? Will they tell the girls what they observed? All of this is holy terror for a young guy psychologically and socially.

The complicating part of the problem is about the same time guys discover that there is nothing quite like a strong erection a sheer physical (and mental) experience is way up there on the list of things that are fun to do. And erections are fun whether or not another person—female or male—is present. The only thing that tops the feel of a strong erection is a powerful orgasm that follows. Part of going through puberty is discovering all of this and realizing that what a guy has discovered is going to follow him doggedly throughout his life.

As a guy gets a little older, but still in high school, he gradually learns techniques for enjoying all of this while navigating ways to cope with the hornet’s nest of interpersonal and social issues he has to face. This is no simple task, and is something that requires both careful planning and foresight. Perhaps the shyest and what seems to be the most socially awkward boy in the class is also the guy who has managed to come up with ways to enjoy himself that go beyond where the outgoing and seemingly socially secure guys are. That is all a very interesting question for sure.

So what about Josh and his roommate Dylan? Both Dylan and Josh seem to be less than outgoing. They are not “party animals” in the usual ways we think about the characteristics of college freshmen who are party animals. At times, they seem to be outwardly a little shy, and dare I say it, socially awkward. But that hasn’t stopped them from being quite comfortable around each other (surely that is an understatement) as well as coming up with ways to enjoy their own (and each other’s??) bodies. Already they have done some stuff that neither would have dared when still in high school. What does this all mean in the larger scheme of things, anyway?

Dylan and Josh on their own have discovered lots of interesting places for their penises to be that are not listed in any textbook on human sexuality. Of course, each of them gradually learned some of this at a much earlier age, but it is just that instead about just dreaming about some of this, they can actually do some of it without fear of being teased, bullied, called names, or worse. The idea of having one’s penis and perhaps even balls in a snug and tightly wonderful place will create sensations and feelings that are both interesting and enjoyable is something that learned at a very early age, and most guys probably also understand that these feelings and sensations are not only linked to a relationship with another person. It is not surprising, however, that each guy finds his own way in this regard and no two guys see this in exactly the same way.

You may be starting to think that just maybe what Dylan and Josh are up to in this regard might not me as interesting and arousing, as say, trying on those successively smaller swim briefs from that SwimOutlet order. The stretch fiber running tights and compression shorts are going to be fun to get into, but as much fun as the swim briefs were? This is a question that can only be answered with an empirical “experiment”.

The new gear might be more exciting with the right garment underneath. A strap? A thong? A swim brief? All of these are possibilities perhaps worth trying.

Game on!

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Dylan and Josh both now have quite a collection of items that could be called snug-fitting clothing of various sorts. My readers all know exactly what is going on with each of them, and least my readers think they do, but let me step back for a moment to make sure my readers are all on the same page with respect to what is actually going on each of their minds and bodies.

Guys at a very early age learn that the “official” method of creating sexual sensations and tensions involves bringing in another person or sexual partner, and if a guy is to be “safe” from teasing, bullying or worse, that person had better be a female about his own age. Any other person as a possibility, say a peer male is strictly off-limits. This “official” view of how male sexuality works accompanied with the idea that anything a guy does inconsistent with the official view, with a partner other than female or alone, is somehow unnatural, sick, abnormal or childish, and these are only some of the kinder words to describe stuff that doesn’t follow the official view.

All of this “official” explanation of how male sexuality must work is one giant myth that keeps getting perpetrated over and over. And of course, for a teen-ager, behaving in a manner consistent with this official view can bring on a host of really complicated issues and problems (can you say intercourse with an underage female?). Guys can pursue females sexually but they had better not go “too far” or they are going to end up “in trouble”. But exactly how far is too far? How does this all work with respect to specific “rules”, anyway? And nowadays what happens if thirty years later a girl a guy played around with sexually accuses the guy of sexual harassment or worse for something that happened sexually when we were both only 15? Crazy, weighty stuff for a young guy to worry about at age 15 or at age 45 for sure! If there is only one view of how male sexuality is supposed to work for guys, then there are certainly a lot of footnotes and asterisks. Where is this official list of what a guy can safely do or not with a girl his age, and what if a guy’s mind deviates from this official list even a little bit.

It doesn’t help that guys, and particularly guys at a young age, are experiencing sexual sensations and feelings on what some might regard as even more frequently than they are able to comfortably “handle.” In this kind of world it is no wonder that the vast majority of guys quickly become very fond of solo masturbation, in private, as a release. Male hormone levels are high and SOMETHING has to give, for goodness sake. One cannot reasonably expect that ANY guy is going to navigate all of this without regularly engaging in some kind of release not involving a conveniently-available similarly-aged female partner. (I’m always amazed that young women often thing that if a guy has access to a vagina on a regular basis that guys will completely lose interest in masturbation when this couldn’t be further from the truth for the vast majority of guys.)

So, Josh and Dylan have found some clothing items that for each of them make masturbation more fun than without the items. Is this fascination somehow abnormal or even sick? Does this somehow mean that because of this they are both gay and only interested in other guys? Guys, particularly guys who do not have a steady partner, are going to figure out some way to masturbate regardless. What’s the big deal if they masturbate in the nude or instead do so while wearing some snug-fitting clothing item like a swim brief, jock strap or snug-fitting compression gear, anyway? If masturbation is more fun that way that doing so naked, so be it. No one is being harmed by doing so.

Since I am exploring “what ifs?” today, let me mention the biggest what if of all. A lot of guys, perhaps most guys, find it most interesting to observe how another male copes when he is in a situation of being sexually aroused and still attempting to refrain from ejaculating for as long as possible. For any guy, this is a most interesting situation to be in. And to see another guy struggle with this for a lot of guys has got to be sexually arousing as well. But merely observing another guy coping in this way is definitely not gay partner sex, or is it? How many guys out there could reasonably hope to cope with a situation of simply observing another guy deal with his own arousal and attempting to delay ejaculation for as long as possible without getting turned on himself? Maybe Dylan and Josh both understand some stuff many of the rest of us fail to comprehend or admit.

Suppose that I am wearing a snug-fitting swim brief, and you, my college dorm roommate is doing likewise. I observe that you are feeling quite horny just by wearing the brief and your “condition” is readily apparent just by casual observation. How long is it going to be before me, who started out as just an observer, is going to start to feel quite horny as well just observing and then thinking about the predicament you have gotten yourself into? Does what is happening mean that you are gay and not interested in being sexually involved with women? For that matter, does the fact that I am getting turned on by watching you struggle mean that I am gay as well? Or is this merely two horny college guys thinking up fun ways to enjoy themselves and alleviate the boredom of being a college freshmen who somehow have no convenient way to get their rocks off with a female partner?

Now imagine Josh and Dylan both trying on their newly obtained gear in the presence of each other. What could happen, under these circumstances? And are Josh and Dylan “normal?”

To be continued…