What to wear?

[sebbie]

The next suit is Dylan’s “collection” is another Sporti Euro brief, one that appears to be identical in every way except for a different color—royal blue rather than the bright Kelly green of the previous one. Of course, there is another difference, a difference that may appear to be subtle—or not. The waist size on the Royal blue Euro brief is 28 inches rather than 30 inches. This may not seem like much, but it may make a big difference in both how the suit fits and feels on Dylan. And Dylan knows that.

I’ve already mentioned the potential “problem” with the Euro briefs. Basically, it’s not the width of the sides so much as the fact that they are cut quite low—lower than most Americans are “used to wearing. Now if Dylan were Asian, this probably would not be such a big deal. But Dylan knows that if he has trouble “covering his butt” in the suit with the 30-inch waist, things are only going to get more “difficult” for him to cope with the situation when he gets into the 28-incher. “Won’t know unless I try the two suits on in succession” Dylan thinks to himself. “but this COULD get errrr interesting for sure!” Of course we all know exactly what Dylan was thinking when he said “interesting”.

Somehow Josh figured that what seemed pretty subtle a choice when picking out the suits might “affect” Dylan in this way. Perhaps I should mention a little bit about Dylan’s physique and what happens size wise when he picks out clothing for himself. Ostensibly, Dylan considers himself to be a 32-inch waist. When he buys jeans he would nominally pick a pair 32 W x 30 I, a very common size for a reasonably-fit 19-year old. But sometimes Dylan thinks the 32 W 30 I Jeans fit a little “loose” and are not quite right for him and his body. He has been known to downsize just a bit to 31 W x 30 I and has one pair of 30W x 30 I This particular pair just big enough around the waist so Dylan can get himself into them without too much trouble, and he likes the way he looks with the snugger fit. He doesn’t openly admit these, but he likes the way he feels in the snugger jeans too.

In swimwear, Dylan figures that a 32-inch waist in a swim brief should fit with no problem at all. The 30-inch Euro brief might be a bit more difficult but still should be quite doable without too much of a struggle. But Dylan also is thinking that even the 28-inch Euro might be pushing it a little.

Of course, as the waist size comes down, whether or not the next smaller size fits or not in part depends on the “condition” he is in going into the next smaller size. Let’s face it, the 28-inch brief might be easier to get into right away if a guy had not previously tried on a 32-inch brief and then a 30-inch brief, already somewhat horny and at the verge of growing, and then as one brief comes off and the next one gets pulled on the guy ends up having more and more that needs to be covered by a series of briefs that keep getting smaller and smaller and more and more difficult to get into. At some point, in order to continue, something may have to “give.”

Of course, the 28-inch Euro is not the end of the “challenge” Two more much smaller briefs await. The first one is a bright red iSwim “Youth” brief in size 26Y. Why isn’t this a plain ordinary men’s brief size 26? The “Y” indicates that this is a brief designed for “Youth” rather than an adult male. A 26” would be approximately equivalent to a boys size 14.

Swim briefs stretch horizontally though some more than others Dylan thinks it might be possible to get the brief to fit on his waist, but the fit might be more than a little confining with respect to the body parts contained within.

The difference between a brief labeled 26Y from a 26 is not in the waist size, but the fact that the sides are narrower than a standard 26 incher and that the amount of cloth covering the butt is less than on the adult size. Dylan looks at the brief and notes are almost as narrow as those on the Euro brief and that is without any horizontal stretching. The severe undersizing is going to only make this brief look even more skimpy on Dylan, if he is able to get himself into it at all.

Dylan lays the iSwim brief over the top of the 28-inch Sporti Euro brief. It not only has a smaller waist, but it is about ¾ inch shorter top to bottom as well. This could get most interesting to say the least.

But there is still one more brief in Dylan’s briefs—a Sporti Piped Youth brief in black with gold piping, size 24Y. This looks like something sized for a beginning swimmer in a youth swimming group. Dylan will never be able to get himself put into such a way undersized suit, or will he?

Next up, it is Josh’s turn to take the briefs Dylan picked for him out of the packaging, and check out the sizes and colors.

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Now it is Josh’s turn to remove the swim briefs Dylan picked for Josh from their packaging and examine the color, sizing and feel. Keep in mind that even though Josh and Dylan share a mutual interest in snug-fitting clothing, Josh is much less experienced at doing this than Dylan is. After all, Dylan messed around with this surreptitiously when he was still in high school. Josh, on the other hand, had neither the thoughts nor the opportunities to do some of these things at that age, even with the tamer stuff.

Josh’s one “big” experience was the day Dylan lent him Dylan’s Desmiit® Thong to wear under his wrestling singlet. You remember, the day Dylan and Josh went along with Bill and Joe to work out at the student gym just down the street from their dorm room. To be sure, Josh thought that all of this was a lot of fun, but also that he might be uncovering a “darker” side to his own person as a sexual human being—at once a fun place to be that Josh was more than a little unsure about whether or not he wanted to visit again at all let alone on a more-or-less “regular” basis.

Still, these sexual feelings and sensations exert a powerful influence over who a guy is and where he wants to go at any point in time, often varying moment by moment. Dylan has grasped all of this, but Josh is still, well, a bit uneasy about what he might be getting himself into here.

When Dylan first explained the idea to Josh about buying a series of swim briefs each one smaller than the last and then trying each one on until a guy reached a point where he could no longer deal with the tension and had to uncontrollably ejaculate in order to cope, Josh thought Dylan might have simply gone out of his tree. This might be a turn-on for Dylan, but Josh was more level-headed that that. And besides, this couldn’t be as “tough” a test of ejaculatory control than wearing that Desmiit thong Dylan borrowed him was. What would make just trying on swim briefs of various sizes be so difficult for even a horny 19-year old guy to deal with, anyway? That should not be so tough to deal with, or is it?

Still, if the Desmiit thong was an all-new experience for Josh, keep in mind that Josh has had only very limited experience in wearing swim briefs of any size or cut, and that Dylan was not going to make this all “easy” on him. Dylan “hand selected” swim briefs for josh that Dylan thought might do it.

So here we have the scene: two horny 19-year-old college guys posing a challenge to both themselves and each other to see who can work their way down swim briefs of various sizes without by trying them on one at-a-time without getting so hard that ejaculation is inevitable. Seems easy enough for a guy to do, huh? As college stunts by freshmen in a dorm room go, this one SEEMS rather tame. Just a “contest” of sorts, a contest in which the guy with the most control of his mind and body wins the top prize.

Unlike Dylan, Josh as but three not five briefs to work through, and Josh’s smallest brief is two inches bigger than Dylan’s smallest brief. So, Josh’s briefs in sequence are: Brief 1 an iSwim regular brief, size 30” Waist, in bright red. Now this is a low-dollar competitor to a standard Speedo swim brief in a solid color. The sides are fairly wide on this brief, a little over 2 ½ inches in the 30-inch waist size. iSwim is the successor to the no-longer used ClubSwim brand name. There is a front panel liner in a very dark navy blue color. Now iSwim briefs are intended to be workout briefs guys who swim regularly. The $5.99 price is low enough so that they can simply be tossed if they fade from the chlorine or start to get loose fitting. Interestingly, the cut on these is pretty low, A 30-incher should be tall enough to cover Josh’s butt crack completely, but without any real room to spare. And there is the constant problem that without a pouch as such, even a somewhat horny 19-year old is only going to fit if he goes “up”. A guy’s state of erection should be pretty obvious in this position.

The next brief size wise is also an iSwim, but this time size 28 inches and labeled as a “youth” brief, and in bright Royal Blue not red. Josh now has the opportunity to see exactly how the size of a youth brief compares with same brand in the adult brief in size 30. The waist is obviously smaller. Indeed the sides are narrower too, Josh thinks maybe under two inches. And the brief has less cloth in the butt than the adult brief does, but, most importantly, the measurement from top to bottom is shorter by nearly an inch. Josh wonders if he will be able to cover his butt crack wearing this brief, and if so, how will he manage that especially if he is semi erect.

The third brief should be the biggest challenge of all, a 26 incher labeled “Y” from Sporti, this one black but with a red piping. Josh wonders if this brief will stretch enough so that he would be able to get into it at all, but that is all part of the fun. If he can get in, so to speak, how he looks wearing the seriously undersized brief is another matter entirely. With the snug fit, every male body part is probably going to be straining under the tension, and Josh will somehow have to deal with that.

Still, Josh is thinking to himself that he managed to obtain all three swim briefs for just under $20, about the cost of a single grab bag Speedo®. So if one or even two of them can’t be worn as a real swim brief for workouts at the gym, not a lot is lost for goodness sake. And, as Josh sorts through the brief he is starting to fel pretty good in a bunch of different ways. If Josh’s body is happy and his wallet is still in good shape, why shouldn’t he simply be happy as well? And Josh is seriously wondering how Dylan will cope or not. Those thoughts merely add to the overall tension Josh has been feeling. And Dylan is wondering the same about the less experienced Josh. As goofy stunts by male college freshmen roommates go, this is an interesting one with few is any risks—at least relative to the kinds of risks college male freshmen often take.

To be continued…

[Author’s note: I’m sure some of you are thinking that this story is proceeding very slowly, perhaps painfully slow. Why are Dylan and Josh taking all this time to merely examine the items in the swim brief order? Why can’t they get to the “fun” part of trying the suits on in order, size-wise. I almost hesitate to explain this, but this is sometimes like a little boy waiting to unwrap his Christmas “gifts” and the holiday is still three or four days away. As Dylan and Josh examine each suit, they can’t help but thinking about how the suit is going to fit, and whether they will each have any chance at all in getting their penises and balls inside even as each successively smaller suit gets tighter and snugger. It’s this “fear of the unknown right now that is making them both feel so horny. And as they sort this out they keep getting hornier and hornier just thinking about what could (will) happen. The pre cum that started out as an occasional drop of glistening viscous fluid is flowing more steadily now, even though neither of them for the moment have a significant hard-on. There is tension brewing in the groin area even without trying on a single suit, and this tension is going to get only more difficult to deal with as they start to actually try on the suits. Other things might start to happen too, and part of the fun in doing this is that the other things may not be under direct control of a guy’s brain. At some point, a guy’s body starts “playing” with his conscious being. Doing exactly what Josh and Dylan are doing would be a fun thing for almost any guy to try. In the process you will learn something about yourself as a sexual human being. You may struggle with the idea of whether or not it’s OK to try this with a friend or partner present, or whether this is something a guy might want to try or should instead do in private. Dylan and Josh have been struggling with this same issue, but they now seem at least OK with the whole idea of doing this with the other present without getting bogged down in the issue of what that means for their underlying sexual orientations. This, of course, is a variation on the stuff that goes on in a guy’s mind and body when a guy gets into a situation where he needs to wear a brief for the first time in a PE class (PE equals Physical Education), and worse, he is somehow going to have to do it with the other guys in the gym locker room present. There is fear (well, terror perhaps) accompanied by the feeling in the pit of the guy’s stomach that announces that there could be something really fun going on here. So stay tuned. It’s not a question so much of whether or not Dylan and Josh will eventually ejaculate given what they are doing to themselves, but instead when (which suit?) this will happen, and we won’t know that until they both at least start the process of getting into the suits one at-a-time.]

[sebbie]

The psychological pressure on both Dylan and Josh has been building and building, from the moment they realized that the box of swim briefs they had ordered has arrived. To be sure, they have both been playing with each other’s sexual psyche, in part relating to the fact that Josh got to pick out Dylan’s suits and Dylan, the suits for Josh to try on (attempt to wear).

Of course, getting into a brand new swim brief—even one of the “right” size is always an interesting moment for guys. For starters, new briefs are designed to fit quite snug, with the whole idea that they will stretch and fit looser once worn in the pool a number of times. Guys who regularly wear swim briefs know this and are used to having to deal with this. But for guys who are not frequent swimmers—and that includes both Dylan and Josh—this is one of the more interesting parts of getting nto a new brief for the first time. And this all works into the various fears guys frequently have about wearing swim briefs even though at some level they might be quite interested in doing so.

Now, if all a guy is going to do is get himself into a properly-sized Speedo® without have any time to think about it, this might be a comparatively easy thing to do. The problem is that both Dylan and Josh HAVE had time to think about what is to transpire and we know already that they are both feeling pretty horny even if neither is having any significant erection, yet, it’s certainly trickier to crawl into a new swim brief when a guy is already in a significant, horny-feeling state.

So, here is the scene: Dylan goes first, but Josh is right there watching, observing actually, as Josh is fully aware that his turn will be coming up soon. Dylan strips and pulls the bright turquoise blue patterned Speedo® next to his body. The brief looks big enough to fit, should be no problem at all, and Dylan is able to get himself into the brief without serious difficulty. The rear of the suit is cupping Dylan’s buttocks—a “cool sensation”, Dylan thinks. Even basic Speedos® tend to “work” on a guy in interesting ways. No wonder the brand is so popular.

The next step is for Dylan to find a comfortable position for his anatomy. Basic Speedos ® do not have a significant pouch. The design seems to want to flatten a guy’s anatomy instead of allowing it the space it needs to grow. Dylan is looking at himself in the mirror now, and it is quite apparent that Dylan IS starting to grow. Now Dylan in no way thinks that he is near the point where the body takes over from the brain. Dylan is still in control, or at least he thinks he is still in control. But seeing his own penis as a gradually lengthening cylinder just beneath the front of his suit is having a subtle effect on Dylan—and Josh who is just standing there watching all of this and wondering what is going to happen next to Dylan. Dylan actually looks pretty good in that suit in the condition he is in, or so Josh thinks. Let me just say that it is already pretty obvious that Dylan is a guy.

What next? Dylan thinks that it is time to get himself out of this suit and into something skimpier and snugger-fitting. The next suit is the Sporti Euro brief in Kelly Green, two inches smaller.

Now here is one of the more curious aspects of how a penis behaves when it is coming out of a confined space still erect and hard, and something a lot of guys may not realize. Dylan is certainly got bigger and harder just looking at himself in the mirror wearing the Speedo even though he was not near ejaculating. Dylan thinks that by getting himself out of the suit that will take some of the pressure on his penis and help him calm down a bit, making it easier for him to get into the Kelly Green Euro Sporti.

But penises in such a situation do not always follow the rules. Once the “pressure” from the turquoise blue suit is off and Dylan is nude again, sometime penises feel that they can now “take advantage” of the fact that the space is no longer confining, and they grow a little in length and girth, not become smaller or not as hard. And this “problem only becomes greater as Dylan thinks about the fact that the green Euro suit is going to be snugger and skimpier than the Speedo® was.

So, Dylan pulls on the second suit, the Sporti 30-inch Euro brief in Kelly green. The first thing Dylan notices is that if the growing space in the first suit was limited, this new green suit is even more limited in the space that is available. In fact, with Dylan’s penis placed in the “up” position, the suit is so short top to bottom that Dylan is in real danger of popping out over the top of the waistband of the suit.

Josh is quite mesmerized now seeing Dylan struggling with all of this, in part because he knows that he might soon be dealing himself with some of the same issues. Dylan checks his rear side and discovers that his but crack is covered, if just barely so. The basic problem is that a guy gets bigger in front, it becomes more and more difficult to keep the rear fully covered. And if he finds a comfortable penis position in the front so it doesn’t pop out over the waist band, his butt-crack starts to show in the rear. So there is a tradeoff involved.

So far, Dylan has only tried on two suits from the five. What to do now? Well turn up the screws some more so to speak. Dylan gets out of the green Euro and starts to put on the Royal blue one with the smaller waist size 28. Dare I mention that as all of this is happening Dylan is getting closer and closer to the point of no return where he can no longer keep his need to ejaculate under control Dylan is rapidly moving toward the very edge, and certainly getting there faster than he had hoped. Dylan does pull the suit on to his waist, but given his enlarged anatomy, psychological and physiological condition, there is no way that Dylan can calm down and bring himself back without ejaculating. All it takes for Dylan to burst is one look at his penis tip peeping out over the waistband of the bright blue suit and that the rear of the suit is riding way low on his butt, and Dylan can cope with the tension he is experiencing no longer.

Dylan screams “Oh Sh**********t, I’m coming!!! even as Josh watches the uproar with a newfound fascination. Dylan thinks to himself that this might just be the most powerful orgasm he has ever experienced. Semen seems to have shot out everywhere, though the bright blue Euro suit is relatively clean because when Dylan burst, most of the semen went right over the top of the waistband of the suit. And Dylan got through only three of the suits before this all happened (maybe only 2 ½). The last two, probably the most difficult ones with the Y sizing, are still waiting to be tried on. Dylan enjoyed the orgasm immensely, even though he discovered that he doesn’t have quite the degree of control over his own body that he thought he had.

What next? Dylan is probably going to need a day to recover before making another attempt to get through the pile of suits. Josh has been quietly watching this, but seeing Dylan’s attempt to cope has only made him feel hornier. Josh already has a nice semi hard-on going on, and he has not even tried to put on a single suit. Josh realizes that Dylan will be right there trying to help and advise the less-experienced Josh. This is going to be tough for Josh, tougher than Josh had realized for sure when he agreed to get involved with the scheme.

More to come….

[sebbie]

Whatever Dylan’s complaints about getting off sooner than he had hoped when trying on the suits in sequence, Dylan knows for sure that this has been maybe the most fun episodes he has ever had as a college student when enjoying his own body. Some orgasms are good, some are very good, and some are well, mind-blowing, and Dylan knows that this one clearly needs to be placed in “category 3” as in orgasms that are so profound that they only rarely happen.

What made the experience so profound, anyway? Well think of the lengthy sequence of events that led up to all of this..thinking up the idea in the first place, picking out and ordering the suits while staying within the often limited budget of a college freshman student, waiting for the order to arrive, opening the package, unwrapping each suit, feeling the material and studying the sizing, cut and color, and then finally getting to the point where the suits are tried on in size sequence from largest to smallest.

This really goes back to the old idea of a young guy wanting to buy his first swim brief and then take it to his room, close the door and immediately pull it on and jerk off in it. This likely happens a lot, and guys frequently agonize over being in a situation where they are wearing a swim brief in public and somehow can’t keep from shooting with lots of people around, male and (holy terror) female being able to see exactly what is happening. These thoughts probably deter a lot of guys from ever buying a swim brief even though they might deep down long for the opportunity to jerk off in one in private with no one else knowing that is what the real motive was all about. The related issue is that if a guy thinks of himself as otherwise perfectly straight, if the other guys ever figure out what he was doing he might very well be teased and bullied about being a closeted gay-boy, and it doesn’t help that in the minds of a lot of guys, a swim brief is something only a gay boy or perhaps a competitive swimmer or diver would ever wear. So what is this guy who is not even a good swimmer doing wearing one unless he is a gay boy who has not yet come out to others as such?

The seeming near anger many females express about the whole idea of a guy wearing a swim brief doesn’t help the situation either. Guys are usually quite OK with women being scantily clad, but apparently, many if not most women are less than OK with that as applied to guys , or so it seems at least. What rules apply here anyway, in a world where the guy is trying to build social bonds and relationships with others his age? The idea of being seen in public in a swim brief is simply “over the top” in a period in one’s life that is socially difficult with others the guy’s age or similar, both male and female.

All of this is really complicated stuff. Guys seem to learn at a very young age that the only sexual experience that matters is sex that happens when two willing partners bring their bodies together and exchange bodily fluids. At least that is how it is taught in a lot of sex education classes. Enjoying one’s own body is really all about finding a partner who willingly wants to do likewise. Everything has progressed now to the point where the notion of the partners being of the same sex or a of different sexes is at least acceptable in the mainstream, but where does that leave what has just happened to Dylan.

In fact, if Dylan were to appear in a book dealing with understanding sexuality how would his situation be characterized anyway? Some of the so-called experts might categorize Dylan as someone with an illness or abnormality best described as a fetish for snug-fitting swim briefs if he enjoys trying on and getting off in them. And that taken alone is abnormal.

Another group of sex experts might characterize Dylan as being not abnormal so much as being social and psychologically immature, and it’s about time for him to grow up and form bonds with someone else who will, under the best of circumstances, be his sexual partner, and then he can exchange bodily fluids with her (him?) hopefully for the rest of his life. For the moment, however, Dylan is more-or-less stuck in the activities that he liked as a younger teen, when the opportunities for forming significant bonds with others his age were fewer and, sexually at least, inappropriate. In short, Dylan may have a problem but it mainly to do with not yet being grown up enough to have fully appreciated why it’s important to get close enough to another person so that a real sexual relationship can occur between two people.

Wait a second here. If what just happened to Dylan is abnormal, immature or otherwise somehow bad, it is difficult to see exactly what is wrong with all of that. If this is somehow not right for a guy to do how come it was so much sheer fun? Is it somehow wrong for a guy to simply enjoy his own body to the fullest without being involved directly with a sexual partner? And what if a skimpy swim brief simply “helps” this all along? And, given that no bodily fluids were exchanged the risks in that department were essentially zero. Is this up to Dylan to determine whether what just happened is OK or not, or have the so-called sex experts simply not figured out the obvious yet?

Think about that. Taking on a sexual partner for life can be fun, but it can also be an enormous burden in a host of different ways. What are the tradeoffs here, anyway? Dylan can enjoy himself on his own in a special way with no strings attached, or he can enjoy himself with a sexual partner directly in what the experts would call a mature sexual relationship with all sorts of strings, asterisks and footnotes. Which of the two makes more sense? For a guy Dylan’s age, is this really any question at all?

Oh, and what of Josh in this situation? This may be even more complicated than it is for Dylan. As a younger teen, many guys are terrorized by the thought of their peers seeing them masturbate, and the so-called fear of discovery looms large in how a guy goes about coping with powerful urges that keep occurring practically on a daily basis. A general statement is that nearly every guy loves to jerk off at that age, but at the same time terrified about the prospect of being discovered doing so. The first level of terror is when the guy’s parents find out. But most guys (and most parents) work their way through that one. The second level of terror is the siblings, but mainly the younger siblings and especially the siblings who have not yet gone through puberty.

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[sebbie]

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Older male brothers may be less of an issue because the guy soon realizes that the older brother probably faced or is still facing the same problem. Older sisters are a complete “wild card” in this respect except that mothers keep teaching their daughters that anything a guy does to his own body without a female actively involved is somehow abnormal and that females should steer clear of any guy where there is reason to suspect that the guy can get off on his own without a female present. Crazy stuff, I know, but this silliness is frequently passed down from mother to daughter through the generations. Moms simply do not want to think about a hypothetical Dylan or Josh who can get off in a snug fitting swim brief and have a powerful orgasm. These guys must have real “problems” for sure, problems that should be avoided in the relationship department at all costs.

The third level of terror and the most difficult of all to deal with of all is what if some of my classmates male of female discover what I am doing, and what if this happens when they accidently see me inside a skimpy swim brief? The terror here occurs on several different levels. The guys are probably the biggest problem, keeping in mind that every guy about the same age is coping with the same set of urges to ejaculate and attempting to find ways to deal with these urges surreptitiously and for the same reasons, it is just that some guys have been more successful—or just plain lucky—in covering their tracks than others, so far at least.

A lot of guys who claim that they are perfectly straight seem to have a propensity to assume that if a guy is discovered masturbating he should immediately be labeled as being a closeted gay boy, and further, they are fine with telling everyone within earshot what they saw and what they concluded upon seeing it. I’ve never quite understood what exactly motivates all of this except to say that some guys seem to think that their own straight sexual orientation will be less in doubt if they publically call out the discovered masturbators in the class and then labeling each of them somehow as gay boys.

Of course, if the guy is discovered jerking of in a swim brief, that pretty much cements the idea that the guy in so doing is clearly gay not straight, or so the apparent reasoning goes. Some peers who claim to be straight seem to take great pride in outing anyone that they think a gay case could be made, and if this involves teasing and bullying about the swim brief—a swimwear style often associated with gay guys—so be it. This is messy and unfortunate stuff for practically any young guy, but especially so young guys caught wearing swim briefs.

So, both Josh and Dylan managed their respective ways through high school and are now college students. Some old left-over issues remain. Think about it. What should a guy do if he inadvertently wanders in on a guy who is in the process of pleasuring himself ? At this age, most guys have probably learned that calling the guy out for being a gay boy doesn’t have the “sting” that it perhaps did in high school, and that most college students are generally more accepting of people who are not necessarily completely straight than seemingly was true in high school. Plus at 19 and staying in a cramped double room with limited privacy, roommates for the most part are going to realize that sometimes guys just need to deal with their urges. The two of them are both 19 not 14.

But, Josh has inadvertently discovered something else about having a male roommate in close quarters. It is, well, interesting to see up close how another guy his age—Dylan—copes with his male urges. Josh did not immediately exit that first day he accidentally walked in on a masturbating Dylan. Even more interestingly, Dylan did not immediately attempt to “hide” what he was doing from Josh, indeed he kept masturbating right there for Josh to see in stark detail.

So here is the most interesting part. Josh almost immediately discovered that watching Dylan play with himself was a turn-on for Josh. And Dylan almost immediately discovers that having Josh there watching him does not shut things down, but instead makes it even more fun. Same deal as when Dylan was trying on the suits with Josh there watching every step in the process.

OK so Josh was turned on just by looking at the three suits he got in the order. At some point, Josh thought what Dylan was doing was a little goofy , but he sort of played along. However, as Josh watched Dylan in various stages of delicious agony trying on suits that kept getting smaller and smaller, Josh has been getting more and more aroused himself. The pre cumming for Josh that started as he was merely examining the suits has all but stopped now, but Josh is still feeing increasing tension in the groin area. And, Josh now knows that he is getting semi-erect even without actually trying on even the first suit in the pile. Josh has quickly moved from feeling somewhat horny to feeling really horny and he has not as yet even stripped. The suits now pose a special challenge for Josh as well. Josh realized that Dylan thought he was the more experienced of the two in confronting this challenge, but by getting only about half-ways through the pile has meant that Dylan still has his own barriers to cope with. And Josh knows that Dylan will be watching every step Josh makes, just as Josh did for Dylan. Dylan is curious about how Josh copes too.

What this all means for both Dylan’s and Josh’s sexual orientation is unclear at this point, but maybe that is not the real point of all of this at all. Just two guys having goofy fun with their own bodies in a special way—there is no harm in that. Josh will have to be pleased if this all works half as well for Josh as it already did for Dylan.

So, now Josh can start to try on the suits.

More to come, so to speak…

[sebbie]

[A note by the author: Part of the fun in writing these stories is the entire process of thinking up situations that the characters in the story might logically find themselves in as young males, and to not only create what I believe to be realistic situations that college students might confront. At this point I don’t know if Dylan and Josh should both be categorized as gay, straight, or somewhere in that vast space in between. I have read a lot of stuff that both promotes the idea that being gay is determined in the genes, and that guys have no control whatsoever about this element of who they are. I’ve also dug into the claims that being gay (or straight, for that matter) is a “learned” behavior and that what a guy likes to do sexually is in part determined by the array of options that are available. All I can say is that none of this is clear cut. I have watched guys who marry, have kids, then divorce their wives and go off to live with another guy. I have found this to be interesting, to say the least. I am close to concluding not only that many but perhaps even most guys who claim to be straight have a gay side to their personality that might appear out of nowhere under the right (or perhaps some would say wrong) circumstances, but the possibility that this could somehow appear out of nowhere scares the sh**t out of a lot of guys. Would Dylan and Josh have discovered all of this had they not been tossed into a close-quarter dorm room and run into Bill and Joe that time way back? Both Dylan and Josh are very good, polite, young college students, and neither has any interest in doing things that would otherwise disrupt their normal living.

Still they both are carrying around the normal male urges that 19-year old college freshmen have. They may have found a way to deal with their urges that is interesting, but has no larger meaning than that, or perhaps not. In my story I have introduced you, my readers, to three pairs of guys. This all started off with Bill and Joe (remember all those wild wet dream sequences and chapters). Then Bill and Joe met up with Dylan. Then they all went off to the college gym, where the three of them met the more athletic pair Tony and Donavan which the three of them surmised were more than just buddies but possibly also a gay couple, though there was never any real “proof” of that (not that there necessarily should be proof). Then Dylan’s roommate Josh came on the scene. Dylan knew he and his roommate were in close quarters and that he was going to have a rough year in college if he didn’t let Josh in at least a little as to why he had all those snug-fitting clothing items, and you know a lot of what has happened as a consequence. We haven’t heard from Bill and Joe in a long time nor anything from Tony and Donavan other than that encounter at the gym, but some of that could change again as the story proceeds.

I hope that my readers are enjoying reading about all of this as much as I have fun writing it. On an even more personal note, I would feel uncomfortable writing story lines for these characters that got them into doing certain things with themselves that actually didn’t work very well if at all or accomplish the objectives. At some point on occasion, I feel the need to personally “test out” an idea for a possible story line before I write it up in detail. I want to assure my readers that at least most of what I write about doing I have personally tested out myself even before any word hits the page. What you might do (or not do) with that knowledge is entirely up to you. (But isn’t that what is at the heart of what good writers do—write about the stuff they know about from personal experience?)I am delighted if these stories get a lot of guys to thinking about human sexuality and sexual orientation in new and different ways—ways that they have never had the courage to think about before. In this case the courage Dylan had to try on suits with Josh right there, and the courage that Josh must now muster to do the same thing with Dylan standing there. What does this all mean, anyway? That is part of the fun puzzle that is happening. That is as candid I can be with all of you. I am pleased that some of my readers are comfortable with the knowledge that you are gay; others of you are perfectly fine being straight, but perhaps more than a few of you are wandering around in that vast place somewhere in the middle. And that is more than OK too. I want every guy to be happy in his own skin, being who he really is, and enjoying himself to the fullest extent possible.]
 

[sebbie]

When Dylan first suggested to Josh that they both try this, Josh’s initial reaction was that the whole idea was no big deal. Josh of course knew that Dylan has long had this “thing” for snug-fitting clothing of various sorts, but Josh didn’t necessarily think that this was something that necessarily happened to him at all, let alone to the extent that Dylan seemed to be affected. So Josh, perhaps only a bit reluctantly, went along with Dylan’s “idea’ about ordering the swim briefs in various sizes and cuts. “No big deal” Josh thought. “I am not hung up the way Dylan is for sure in this regard.”

Events of the last 30 or 40 minutes watching Josh struggle as he did his best to cope with briefs that were getting smaller and smaller has suddenly changed Josh’s mind on all of this, perhaps forever. Josh secretly wonders if this is something that only affects a few 19-year old guys, or if nearly any guy placed in a similar situation would likely “respond” in that special way. This is certainly stuff that Josh did not learn anything about in his high school sex education class, which instead seemed to be fixated on telling guys how to avoid getting girls pregnant and not much else.

I guess seeing how to put a condom on a banana is useful. Josh always thought the banana-and-condom thing was hilarious, as bananas aren’t guys and guys aren’t bananas. All right, the course did include a short reading on masturbation but it treated the whole subject as just a temporary thing that boys (and girls) occasionally do or did when they were young, and that it would be replaced with real (penis-in-vagina) sex as a guy got older (but, hopefully sex while wearing a condom). Other than that the entire course was something of a joke, Josh thought. And why would the course basically ignore the one safe sexual activity that guys can do and enjoy (solo masturbation) while focusing instead on strategies for keeping guys from getting underage women pregnant.

But for Dylan to just watch struggle with the suits and with his own erection while still attempting to get into each suit has changed everything for Josh. I guess straight guys often wonder why for gay guys being with another person with the same body parts every guy has could possibly be as interesting as being with a female with a different set of body parts, body parts carefully engineered to contain a guy’s penis in such a wonderful way.

The key here is that there is something beautifully erotic for a guy about getting to see another guy gradually getting an erection that soon leads to a full-blown orgasm, and it is probably not just perfectly gay guys who find this appealing—at least for the guys who do not claim that this whole thing is revolting. Strange, huh? Guys are constantly thinking about if they somehow accidentally got themselves into a situation like Josh was just in watching Dylan grow and then explode in a powerful orgasm, could they remain completely unaffected by it all, or would they find the whole situation to be somewhat or a lot erotic. And is the revulsion that some guys express for seeing this is merely an indication that the guy who claims this is revolting not erotic merely a cover for the guy’s fear that if placed in this situation he would find it interesting too, and, horror of horrors, does that mean there is a gay side to my personality? These are very tough questions to answer.

So, here is the situation. Guys always like to turn things into competitions, and this is a competition of sorts to see that which of them can get through the pile of suits without shooting. Seems tame enough, and Josh has fewer suits to go through than Dylan had. Josh has three suits: Dylan made it through, well about 2 ½ suits. Josh thinks that it shouldn’t be THAT much more difficult to hang on through the three suits without blowing off.

Except for one thing. Watching Dylan in his delicious agony affected Josh in various ways, some ways psychological, but also in some ways that are now physically quite apparent. Bluntly put, Josh is now going to try this when he already has a serious hard-on even before he pulls on the first suit. I perhaps shouldn’t tell you this, but Josh came close to ejaculating already at one point just watching Dylan struggle with the suits.

Of course, Dylan has noticed that Josh already has quite an erection going. Maybe getting through 2 ½ suits was not such a bad effort at this after all, thinks Dylan.

So Josh strips down and now is standing in front of Dylan, nude. There is only one problem, and it is a big problem, so to speak. As Josh stands there Josh is now nearly 6-inches long, and worse, his penis is sticking nearly straight out horizontally. Josh suddenly has empathy for all those swim-team guys who are in a gym locker room putting on a swim brief for the very first time.

The first brief in the sequence Josh faces is a 30-incher, a bright red iSwim brief. This is going to fit snug, but it should provide a little more space than would have been the case if it were a 30-inch Sporti Euro brief, or so Josh thinks. Still there is no significant pouch space, and even the 30-inch waist fits pretty tight. Josh wishes he had more room, but it’s too late now. The only practical position for Josh’s penis to go in that brief is “up”. But Josh’s penis definitely “wants” to be horizontal right now not vertical, and is not happy in the “up” position.

All this adjustment can quickly take a toll on a guy. Josh is suddenly feeling that he is nearing the point of no return, orgasm-wise. The entire sequence of events both with Dylan and now with his own effort is at the very edge of being too much for Josh to contain himself any longer. Once Josh gets in and gets his penis pointing upward inside the brief, Josh takes one quick look at himself in the mirror and then quickly pulls down the red brief before it is all over.

Once nude again, Josh calms down just a bit though that horizontal erection that has been building has not subsided at all. Josh is now just calm enough so that he wants to continue the challenge. The next suit in the Josh’s pile is also an iSwim, but this time a Royal blue one, size 28Y. Now the waist size on a 28Y (Youth) size is the same as on a 28 designed for adult males, but the sides are narrower and the back has less full coverage, as a younger male would likely hve smaller glutes than an adult male in any given waist size. Josh has still more difficulty getting his penis to behave pointed up. Josh desperately wants to go off, and NOOOOOOOWWWW

In what can only be described as a herky-Jerky motion, Josh suddenly ejaculates all over himself and on the spanking new bright red iSwim suit, while making repeated quiet “groans” of pleasure. Josh now is able to experience exactly what Dylan was going through with his own mind and body only 30 or 40 minutes ago…Dylan, of course, is watching Josh ejaculate all over the place as well. This is not “bothering” Dylan quite so much because Dylan is still “coming down” out of his own post-ejaculatory phase. Still, Dylan thinks that it is a lot of fun just to see Josh struggle in dealing with his own body as well. These experiences are the stuff for the content that make wet dreams so much fun, sexual experiences that need to be relived over and over for sure.

So, already the suits have been a lot of fun, and have paid for themselves in pure enjoyment even though neither guy has gotten to the smallest suit before ejaculating all over. Surely, other attempts will be made after Dylan and Joe have “recovered” sufficiently. Will there be other “visitors” to the dorm room next time as well…Bill and Joe, perhaps? What an idea! thinks Dylan.

To be continued…

[petrus]

Like if you were reading my mind! Thoughts never shared yet written down. Cool.

[sebbie]

Josh and Dylan return from Christmas Holiday (Winter Break) AND exchange (belated) gifts

The time that both Dylan and Josh ad with each of their families, unfortunately, has come to the end, and Josh and Dylan are both back at the College dorm in preparation for classes that will resume in the coming week. Dylan and Josh both enjoyed the break from the daily routine of a college freshman, but being so close to their families meant that there was little time to mess around at all, if you get what I am saying.

Nearly every guy knows that it is often far easier to feel horny, and that “horny-feeling” bouts normally happen more frequently in the warm summer months that in the cold winter months. That is all just part of the curious things about being a guy. Bluntly put, a guy will feel less like jerking off in cold weather than in warm. Then too, being with your own family often has an odd way of shutting down a guy’s interest in getting off. Perhaps it is merely the idea that getting horny in a situation like this is unrealistic because there is simply not enough sustained privacy to make this possible, but there might be more going on than that. Anyhow, at some level both Dylan and Josh are happy top be back to college where they both have a bit more latitude in this regard.

Still the two-week break from ejaculating (if that is indeed what happened) has its way of taking a “toll” on a guy’s psyche in some odd if not wonderful ways. A guy who somehow gets “stuck” in a situation where they are uncomfortable about not having real opportunities to get off sometimes does strange and powerful things once he senses that he is back into what he regards as something of a more normal situation from a frequency-of-jerk-off perspective.

To, Dylan hadn’t forgotten about what had happened during the fall semester, nor had Josh somehow forgotten about what Dylan was up to during the same period. These ideas were left on both of their brains like indelible ink, ideas that could resurface in strange but interesting places.

The day AFTER Christmas, Dylan was out wandering around the local Walmart store not just for fun, and not necessarily in search of a clothing item that might be helpful in a jerk off session. But as he was wandering around and noticed what looked to him like Russell® branded compression shorts. They were not advertized as compression shorts. They were over in the underwear section. What made them unique is that they were made of a stretch polyester spandex blend. You can tell Dylan was feeling more than a little horny given his interest in this particular item.

Dylan was not clear as to whether the short but jammer-style shorts were intended to be worn as underwear, as compression gear under a looser pair of workout shorts, or worn without anything over simply as gym wear. The shorts did not have a fly, though they did have a sewn semi pouch.not anything “drastic” in that regard though the fact that the guy has a male anatomy would be at least somewhat apparent, if you know what I mean.

These came in a variety of patterns and styles, the most common being what might be called a “modern camouflage” pattern, not like the somber tones of an old-style military camouflage, but a modern camouflage in assorted bright colors, blues, greens, yellows, even black and white.

Dylan quickly decided he wanted a pair for himself. But what size? Medium would work, but Small would fit snugger and tighter. Not any real choice, is is. Dylan took one of the ones labled SM or CH off the rack and put it in his cart. Then he got to thinking “I bet Josh would enjoy a pair of these too. Same style and size, but a different color”.

So, Dylan came back to school carrying a pair of these shorts for Josh and a pair for himself. The ones he bought for Josh he had put in one of those ubiquitous gray plastic Walmart bags.

So, after Dylan and Josh had gotten themselves moved into the dorm room, Dylan said to Josh “I have bought you a little gift for the season the other day when I was wondering around Walmart—a pair of camouflage stretch shorts you might like.

Amazingly, Josh said “Dylan, Amazingly I was doing the same thing when I was on vacation. I was wondering around Walmart and found this really interesting pair of Russell ® running tights. The ones I found were nearly solid black polyester/spandex blend, but faded into a bright yellow-green color down at the ankle. I got a pair in Small, and have tried them on, and in that size they fit really (really) snug. I like them a lot and I figured that size would fit you too (grin).

And, so that is how Josh and Dylan traded “gifts” this year, both little “reminders” to each of them of what they both REALLY enjoyed doing!

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To be continued…

[sebbie]

One of the interesting parts about getting new clothing that is snug-fitting is that guys generally are uncertain about what they are getting into, both literally and figuratively. This applies to lots of different clothing items, each with a potential to “get” to a guy in a “unique” way. I have often thought that penis are rather interesting in that they all seem to have a “mind” of their own in this regard, almost as if they are somehow “disconnected” at times from a guy’s brain. Whatever it is that happened, it occurs in some place where the guy doesn’t seem to have any direct control.

Take the new “dilemma” that Dylan and Josh now find themselves in as an illustration of what might or might not be going on. Dylan and Josh individually were just wandering around Walmarts in their hometowns. Dylan ran into the Russell running tights that he thought looked neat—and VERY snug. Josh was wandering around and saw the equally snug-and-tight new-camo shorts. Seeing something like this set off subtle alarms in both of their brains. Dylan immediately senses that the running tights would be something that could be fun to wear, and that in the purchase he would be doing something that he could thoroughly enjoy. In the store, Dylan imagines what his body might look like in a mirror wearing the tights—the snug fit through the thigh and in his calves right down to his ankles.

Dylan of course is curious as to how his penis will look in them to. Do these present a similar “problem” as a swim brief where a guy has to position his penis up, down or sideways? The running tights are lightweight material. What will Dylan look like in them with his penis positioned “up”? Will that sensitive underside show much like it does in a snug-fitting swim brief? How does all of this feel, anyway?

Another problem is what, if anything does a guy wear UNDER something like this? Maybe nothing at all, but there are many other possibilities as well. A strap would be interesting, but so would thong underwear, a swim brief, or even a pair of old-school “tighty whiteys”

Then Dylan thinks of Josh. Josh MIGHT enjoy this too. Indeed, Josh might enjoy experimenting with all of this the same way Dylan does. If Josh sees Dylan experimenting with this he might feel “left out” without his own pair.

In looking at the Russell shorts, Josh went through much the same analysis that Dylan went through. Josh liked the apparent very snug fit of the shorts, the “modern camo” pattern, the overall look and feel. There were all these interesting questions of course, involving issues such as just how a guy’s penis fits in them and in what position does it go. Does a guy wear something else under these, and, if so, what? Josh imagines himself wearing these staring at himself and the various bulges and protrusions of his own manhood. Fun things to explore, Josh thinks to himself. The odd thing is that Josh is starting to realize that he has quickly become just as hooked on experimenting with all of this as his roommate Dylan obviously has. And Josh thinks about Dylan as well. Would Dylan truly like to be a part of this? Well, that almost goes without saying given all of the events that have happened in recent weeks and months.

And so that is how Dylan and Josh each ended up with new clothing items to explore and ended up exchanging gifts.


To be continued…