What to wear?

[sebbie]

et’s face reality here. 19-year old college guys, dorm roommates, talk about a lot of stuff. As anyone who lived under the circumstances of a college dorm. There is a wide variation with respect to how roommates fare living with each other. I guess the young college women face a lot of the same issues and concerns, but for guys, the struggle to find a workable way of navigating through the process with a male roommate frequently seems even more difficult.

Male buddies are oftentimes very good friends, and they talk about a lot of stuff and share information about what they know or have recently learned. This sharing of information is particularly important for teen boys just past puberty, when they suddenly become very interested in understanding anatomical details that they had little interest in prior to reaching puberty. For most young guys this involves uncovering the details of female anatomy and in particular the details of how sex works with a female partner.

A classic “coming-of-age” movie from the the 1970s is one called “Summer of ‘42” where Hermie, a young teen boy, encounters and then falls for a much older woman, a woman who lost her husband in World War II. A lot of the movie follows Hermie and his male buddies as they together learn about female anatomy and how to have sex with a woman from old books they secreted away. The “climax” of the movie is when Hermie actually has sex with the older woman.

Coming-of-age movies involving young teen guys who think they are gay are far rarer, and I am not aware of any movies that deal with that topic in the same way coming of age movies exist involving straight males. Gay teens obviously learn stuff about other guys in some manner, but the entire path is less clear and perhaps more complicated than the one depicted involving coming-of-age encounters for straight males.

So, where things get complicated for teen males irrespective of whether they think they are straight or gay has to do with the fact that while guys talk about a lot of stuff with their male buddies, the discussions usually center on some third party, presumably a female, as it did in the “Summer of 42” movie.

This means that any talk about what happens to a guy as he becomes aroused and how a guy responds sexually is off limits unless that discussion focuses on what is happening during a sexual encounter with a female partner, and guys vary a lot even on how they treat this.

In this regard, some guys are braggadocios, that is, when they have a sexual encounter with a female, they like to brag about it to their male friends. Even male adults who should be old enough to know better still do this, which is more than a little odd for sure.

A basic problem with the bragging is that whatever the guy said ends up circling back to the girl involved, and at that point all hell breaks loose. A guy quickly learns that if he has any sincere feelings for the girl then need to keep his mouth completely shut on what happened in the encounter, and that includes a completely closed mouth even to his closest male buddies.

Encounters involving other males for guy with, shall we say, have gay leanings get even trickier, because if that information should ever get back to a straight male, it sets the guy up for teasing, bullying, and worse. But the entire set of rules here are really complicated here in part because teen males learn a lot of stuff from their buddies, but the entire topic of what happens to a guy involved either in solo sex or in having some sort of an encounter with a male partner his age are strictly off-limits topics.

Now we circle back to Josh and Dylan and the activities going on right now in the dorm room. Josh and Dylan are both 19, and should know a lot more about sex in all its forms than they did as young teen boys. Further, in college, the general threats of being teased and bullied are less than they would have been as a young teen. For any number of reasons, Josh is not the kind of guy who is going to dash out into the hallway and tell any guy who might listen to him all the details of what he observed in the dorm room. At some level, Dylan fully understands that too. So, if this is a secret event, the secret is safe between the two.

Still, there are tons of unanswered questions. Let me raise the issues one by one. First, initially taken aback by the sound of Josh’s key in the dorm room lock, Dylan has quickly gotten to the point where there is something that he sort of likes about the idea of having Josh there watching him jerk off and observing the nuances of what he is doing to himself at every moment. Take note that Dylan did not suddenly stop stroking himself from base to glans (nor, for that matter, suddenly lose his erection) the moment Josh wandered into the room. This brings up thoughts that maybe many guys, however actively they attempt to hide their masturbation, might in fact find it arousing to being accidentally “discovered.” But, of course, that depends by whom.

Second, with Josh standing there, the sexual sensations, indeed the stiff erection itself, seems to be getting stronger and stronger, which is particularly interesting because Dylan has been riding along at near the point of ejaculation all morning long. Dylan has been having the “advanced course” in ejaculatory control for sure.

Third, Josh had always thought he would be “turned off” by seeing another guy his age erect and masturbating, and this turn-off was simply part of the whole deal of being a straight guy. But aren’t straight guys supposed to only be turned on in encounters with women? Indeed, when a guy finds a female partner, he is suppose to discard or simply leave all of his psychosexual interest in solo sex behind and never engage in solo sex again. Or, maybe not! Josh is not so sure at this point. But that is not how Josh feels right now at all, definitely not.

Fourth, Josh is having issues of his own right now and these issues are centered in his groin area. Josh just observing Dylan is feeling the tell-tale rumblings of sexual arousal himself, rumblings that cannot be ignored. At some level, Josh is thinking that would be a lot of fun to be in Dylan’s shoes right noy, except that Dylan is not wearing any shoes. Josh is trying to determine what exactly is causing his body to respond the way it is. Part of could be that skimpy thong Dylan is wearing, putting pressure on his perineum, and pushing Dylan’s penis and balls both up and forward. By Dylan has never tried on a thong, so he has no first-hand experience with these sensations. Josh at some point has already decided that he wants to try wearing a thong too, but that is not where he is this morning.

For Josh, what’s scarier still is the idea that he seems to like to watch Josh jerk off, and this gets more and more fun to watch as Dylan gets closer and closer to shooting. At some level, Josh understands this.

But what does all of what is going on this morning suggest for the subject of the sexuality of Dylan and of Josh? Can they both still think of themselves as perfectly straight? Josh and Dylan are both wondering about the same “crazy question.” Of the college guys in the dorm, how many would be turned off by what is happening versus turned on? Does being turned on at all mean that deep down, at some level, you are a gay guy? This is a good question for sure, and a question where there is no easy or simple response.

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Both Dylan and Josh are in a most interesting situation right now. As I have indicated a number of times already, since the dawn of puberty, Dylan gas been fascinated with snug-fitting clothing of various sorts. There is a lot of interesting stuff and mysteries about human male sexuality. The first mystery facing young guys entering puberty is how sensations that occur stroking or even just touching one’s own penis can feel so remarkably good way up in a guy’s brain.

More details regarding how the sexual turn-on system works come into focus as a guy gets into his teen years, with each “experiment” yielding more new “information”, information that might ultimately prove to be not only useful, but quite frankly, enjoyable.

Dylan learned at a very early age that the nerve endings in his penis do not seem to behave the same way no matter what. Indeed, if he is not in any way sexually aroused or turned on at all, Dylan’s penis feels almost like any part of his body, at least pretty much so. But any sort of arousal, even that occurring in a brief moment, makes his penis suddenly feel way different and more interesting, almost immediately. It’s almost as if his penis has some sort of strange built-in “trigger mechanism” that somehow “knows” what is happening that is sexually arousing even before the guy is consciously aware of it. This all gets very, very complicated in a hurry. Part of what makes this complicated is that the arousal mechanism often is simply visual, or perhaps mainly physical, or perhaps a screwball mix of the two. Whatever is happening in the arousal department seems to be a curious mixture of what is considered socially acceptable (seeing a pretty girl, perhaps) and socially “unacceptable” (as in seeing a handsome guy) and then all that screwball stuff that is in uncharted territory (such even thinking about having sex with yourself, or perhaps getting to wear tight-fitting clothing).

Nature could have certainly been kinder to guys and made sure that turn-ons only happen if whatever is doing the turn on is socially acceptable, but there is all this other dumb stuff that seems to be there only to confuse things for the guy who is just trying to muddle through life without getting teased or bullied. How come human biology messed all of his up so badly, for goodness sakes?

Human penises really love being in confined spaces, and they show their love to the guys who put them there by providing the most wonderful and interesting sensations. Human penises love being in confined spaces so much that they sometimes can’t resist getting all excited if the guy even THINKS about putting his into a confined space. Penises are so sensitive that they like to respond to ANY indication that the space enveloping them is confining, even if it is psychological as opposed to direct physical content. To further muddy the waters, if the penis thinks it could be in a confined space, but the space it is now in is not quite snug enough, it has the remarkable ability to grow in length and girth just enough so it fits exactly into the available space. At once, the guy is driven bananas by all of this, but at the same time is enjoying the sensations immensely.

What is going on here anyway? Well, this is the “dumb” scheme nature figured out so the species will continue. If the species is to reproduce and sustain itself, copulation has to be fun, a lot of fun for both sexes. And it is. Otherwise humans wouldn’t be that interested in doing it and the species would quickly die off.

But, the vast majority of male orgasms do not lead directly to reproduction. Yet they happen anyway. Nature had to know that this would go on—guys pleasuring themselves with the “seed” falling in places where reproduction cannot occur, etc etc. This stuff is fun for a guy too, maybe not as much fun as “real” sex, but still a lot of fun. (There is actually a lot of debate on that point, by the way, and, if you ask a sex researcher, they are less convinced than they once were even that most guys find sex with a partner more enjoyable than plain old solo masturbation. The thoroughly modern view on this topic is that for most guys at least, there is a place for both. Masturbation for sexual pleasure no longer has second-tier status as it did years back.)

At this point, many of my readers probably think that I have completely forgotten about Dylan and Josh, and what is happening right now in the dorm room. I have not forgotten at all. Dylan is having so much fun I thought I would just let him have at it stroking himself in that tiny thong underwear, with Josh looking on. (What is happening surely is not gay sex in any form, or is it?)

As a young teen Dylan has always been fascinated with how snug-fitting clothing triggered a response by his body. The items that “did” this for Dylan included a number of different things, and a lot of them he acquired in that order he placed with Bill and Joe. The little thong Dylan is using today is just one of those items, all of which Dylan knows will set him off, arousal-wise.

Dylan has long wondered if he was unique among guys in his ability to get turned on simply by wearing (or even think about wearing) snug fitting jeans, underwear, compression wear, swimming briefs, thongs, wrestling singlets) and what if masturbation occurred while he was wearing this stuff. Is this part of partner sex or a replacement for partner sex or something way off in some uncharted and undefined territory.

As a high school teen, raising issues like this with even close peer males was really totally off limits as the danger of getting teased, bullied, called a faggot or whatever was just too great.

Dylan got quite an “education” from Bill and Joe even though he didn’t ask them directly any of these questions. Dylan was able to quickly put two and two together and figure out that something way important was driving their “interest” in owning all the gear. Tony and Donovan filled in some more blanks in this regard.

So Dylan understands what he is doing to himself, even if he doesn’t understand the answers to all the “Why” questions that have been bouncing around in his mind lately. And Dylan is learning a lot from Josh as Josh just stands there taking everything in that Dylan is doing to himself. Not only does Josh not appear to be put off by all of this, Josh seems to be rather enjoying himself even though he is not actively participating in what he is seeing. That is a very different response than Dylan ever imagined.

Dylan certainly has that figured out right. For the moment, Josh’s little “secret” is that Josh’s body is responding to what Josh is seeing, even though that might not be at all obvious, especially given that Josh is fully clothed. Josh doesn’t quite know how to “read” his body in that regard, but he is subconsciously getting turned on by just seeing Dylan stroking himself in that tiny thong to near the point of orgasm. Josh is thinking to himself that he is getting to see something he has never before seen in real life, that being getting to see how another guy’s body behaves as it goes past the point of no return and into a full-blown orgasm.

College is an educational experience in all sorts of ways. This is one of them!

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Both Dylan and Josh are getting “lessons” on why it is so much fun to be a guy, and, in particular why it is so interesting to be a 19-year old college freshman. Sexual pleasure without a partner is frequently seen by many as a second- or even third-rate form of sexual activity, if it is considered to be a sexual activity at all. A lot of 19-year old guys, maybe guys of any age, are really hung up on this notion. Real sex only happens when penis goes into vagina. Of course, gay guys accept a somewhat broader definition here, but still it all boils down to the idea that the only real sex happens with the active participation of another person.

Dylan and Josh are both in a unique situation right now, with Josh merely watching what Dylan has been doing to himself. Is this a form of partner sex or not, since another guy is present in the dorm room while Dylan is pleasuring himself? That is an interesting question, a question that surely has no simple answer. As Josh watches Dylan play with himself, surely his mind and body is not oblivious to the fact that Dylan is having fun in this sort of play. In fact, what is happening right now is that Josh, as he merely watched Dylan fool around with his penis, Josh is starting to experience his own feelings in his groin area.

At one level, Josh wishes that he wasn’t there at all. Yet, at another level, Josh is fascinated by what he is observing, and Josh’s body has been picking up on this. Now Josh isn’t ready to get off himself, at least not yet. At the same time he is thinking that deep down he would like to be mimicking for himself what Dylan is doing, and the psychological “pressure” is starting to build within Josh’s young mind and body as well. Josh knows all the sensations and feelings in that after all he is 19-years old. Josh doesn’t know quite what to make of all of this. After all, Josh has always thought of himself as being perfectly straight. Yet the situation at hand is really starting to gnaw away at Josh both mind and body.

Dylan too. In his short life, Dylan does not recall an instance in his life where he got up horny in the morning and then stayed as horny as he has been for as long as he has been this morning without getting off. For young Dylan, this is an all new life experience. First off, Dylan was not aware that a guy could even do this for that long. This of course in part was related to the whole notion that when he was younger, he had to find a way to jerk off to orgasm quickly, lest the “nefarious” activity be “discovered by a peer classmate of family member. Younger guys quickly learn to get their bodies adjusted to the notion that they need to jack off quickly.

But this is now different, totally different. It’s like riding a giant wave in the surf, edging closer and closer to being upset, but then regaining stability just a moment before the “wipeout” What Dylan is doing to himself is very much like that. Josh too knows that Dylan has been riding along right on the edge of a huge and powerful orgasm. Everything Josh is observing supports that. Josh is really beginning to wonder how long Dylan can keep this up. Josh has never tried anything quite like this himself, either, and he has concluded that Dylan must be having a fabulous time of it all, mind and body. Josh is fully aware of how good he feels all over when he is at the very edge of orgasm, but thought that there was some “rule” that “required” him to ejaculate immediately after he got to that point. Dylan is teaching by demonstrating to Josh all sorts of stuff about Josh’s own body and mind.

A basic rule here is the longer a guy can remain on the edge of ejaculation without going past the point of no return, so to speak, the more fun the finality will be. The same rule holds in partner sex as it does in solo sex, and whether or not another person is in the room with you. Dylan this morning has gotten quite an “education.” That tiny little thong Dylan is wearing is a useful aid for Dylan and his “journey” this morning. Among other things, the skimpy thong helps him get access to the most sensitive areas of his body, in particular the underside of his penis and his perineum that is chocked full of sensitive nerve endings. And, if Dylan takes a break by stopping the stroking for a bit to regain stability, the thong helps maintain his erection so that he doesn’t go too far in the other direction. That little thong is quite a masturbation tool in this regard. Dylan knows that and appreciates what it does for him and his horny mind and body and figures that Josh has noticed this too.

To be continued...

[sebbie]

Dylan, in his young life of only 19 years, does not recall any instance where he has been able to maintain an arousal and erection for as long as he has been able to this morning. At some level, Dylan is beginning to see what has been going on as something of an accomplishment. As a younger teen, he would have been embarrassed, at least primarily so. He would have also had a lot more difficulty with the whole situation whereby another guy his age, in this case Josh, is standing right there observing Dylan in all his “misery”.

Of course, Dylan fully realizes that the events of the past few hours have not been miserable at all, but a wonderful, yes even beautiful thing, something that Dylan had not fully realized until this day. The only embarrassment comes from the whole idea that not everyone else may see this all in quite the same way Dylan is now experiencing for himself.

Dylan thinks to himself that male sexuality is a marvelous thing in its own special way independent of all the partner stuff that seems to overwhelm most guys his age. Dylan wonders how many guys out there can see and experience what Dylan is experiencing this morning. It seems to Dylan that maybe too many guys spend too many of their waking hours chasing down and then having sex with a partner when at age 19 they would be better served by just kicking back and enjoying themselves and their bodies. This may not be the most popular way of looking at life, but who cares? If a guy enjoys himself and appreciates his own body, who are all these others to say that what Dylan is doing to himself is in anyway either wrong or abnormal?

Guys are constructed the way they are constructed, with all that this entails, Dylan thinks to himself. Indeed, the “risks” associated with what Dylan has been doing are all but nonexistent save the possibility of being teased or bullied should all of this somehow be revealed to the wrong person or in the wrong place or time. Getting horny then becomes much more of a burden than a source of joy and pleasure, and for Dylan right now that seems what is wrong not the self-pleasuring that is wrong for a lot of guys.

Then there is Josh who has been quietly watching as Dylan has been pleasuring himself in that skimpy thong in the little dorm room. Josh is now fully fixated on wanting to be himself in the place Dylan is now in, and if that means going out and shopping for his own thong, so be it. But in the entire sequence of events that have transpired, Josh is also getting a new understanding of what it means to be a male and all the joys that come from being just that. This is stuff that Josh has never ever fully thought about before. Josh had simply assumed that getting aroused without a sexual partner (in Josh’s case, a young woman) was, if not abnormal, certainly inferior to having “real” (partner) sex. I have a roommate who really gets into enjoying himself even without a partner! What is wrong with that, anyway?

Every horny guy is going to ultimately seek out a way to have a full-blown ejaculation, and Dylan is certainly not an exception to this “rule” Dylan is on the very edge of the point of no return. His penis is as big and as hard as Dylan can ever recall it being in his young life. Biologically there is a basic reason for this. In essence, what Dylan has been doing to himself is only a slight variation of the so-called “stop-start” method, often prescribed by sex therapists working with couples in which the male partner is struggling with what is referred to as premature ejaculation. The whole idea behind the stop-start method is that when the guy thinks he is on the edge of no longer being able to delay an orgasm, he quickly stops whatever the physical stimulation is at the moment, until things settle down and his body can “take” a little more stimulation without immediate ejaculation. Dylan has been teaching himself this method even as Josh looks on, at least somewhat mystified by it all.

Male arousal is a fascinating subject in all sorts of ways. Initially, the arousal seems disconnected, diffuse and easy to deal with. The guy feels an initial moment of tension in the groin area, without the penis being in any way turgid. This initial moment of tension very early on is usually accompanied by a few tell-tale drops of pre-cum, and the guy can usually sense this has happened because he feels the telltale drop on his underwear at the very tip of his penis. At this point a guy can easily get distracted again and everything goes back to normal. The drop or two of pre-cum is generally not sufficient to create a noticeable damp spot on the guy’s jeans. Dylan, sitting in class this morning, was weaving in and out of being somewhat aroused versus not so much. If a guy wants to settle down, all he has to do is distract his minds from the initial sensations from the groin area, in other words, just think about anything else other than his body.

But, of course, it’s a lot more fun to just keep going, even with the “dangers” involved. If the guy just keeps going, chances are the size of his penis may very well start to increase. And depending on what the guy is wearing, this could become an “issue”. Dylan was wearing his tightest skinny jeans to class, and that choice was certainly not in keeping with a selection that would keep what was going on a secret. But for Dylan, this had become part of the “fun” in concert with his decision to wear that skimpy little thong he had gotten at Amazon ® to class this morning.

Any guy starts out handling initial arousal pretty well, realizing that anything that lead to a few initial drops of pre-cum could be stopped merely by getting distracted, but once an erection gets underway, it has the tendency to cause the poor guy’s mind to increasingly focus on what he is feeling in his groin area. Soon enough, whatever a guy was using to distract himself, such as a boring college lecture, begins to feel less and less important even as the sensations now emanating from the guy’s groin area vie for the guy’s attention. Snug-fitting clothing, in this case together the tight fitting jeans and thong, only make matters worse. Somehow, Dylan got through all of this in class this morning and managed to make it back to his dorm room. And in the dorm room is where we find Dylan now, along with his roommate Josh who has been watching all of this with a great deal of interest and increasingly starting to feel interesting stuff himself.

Enough is enough! Too much is too much! Dylan now breaks over the edge and finds himself in a situation where he can no longer put off ejaculating. Like a surfer going into a wipe out, everything happens all at once. His young body can no longer delay ejaculating the large quantity of semen it has been producing. Dylan’s mind is focused not on where he is or even that Josh is standing there. Dylan’s mind is telling Dylan that the semen must be ejaculated. Every nerve ending in Dylan’s penis now seems more sensitive than Dylan has ever experienced before. Mind-wise Dylan feels as if he is going to go into full scale convulsions. The thong is tugging away and putting upward pressure on his perineum, even as the thong pouch encapsulates every nerve in his penis. The sensation of having the thong back cut between his cheeks is adding to the sensations from another place, a place Dylan before had not realized was as sexually active as it is.

Guys 19-years old experience powerful ejaculations, and Dylan is no exception. Dylan’s young body courses with multiple muscular contractions, each one more interesting and exciting and enjoyable than the previous one. Dylan’s prostate is contracting over and over too, with each contraction pushing more liquid out, and these contractions are only adding to the pulsating pleasure of what is going on. The tiny thong of course is nowhere near big enough to contain all the semen that Dylan is ejecting from his body. The thong pouch is unable to contain the huge penis and ejaculate ends up shooting across the room in those great bubbles of that wonderful creamy-white and sticky fluid. Dylan feels almost as if his entire body is now contained within his sexual organs. In a word “Wow!”. This experience is unlike anything he has ever experienced as a teenager, not that he would have ever had the opportunity to try something like this.

Of course, what Dylan did to himself by maintaining his arousal but delaying orgasm was directly responsible for the outsized orgasm he has just experienced. At some level, Dylan now understands this, at least more of this than he did. Dylan now feels a bit “bushed” as things settle back and Dylan now fully realizes what has just happened to him. Dylan has an entirely new appreciation for how much fun it is to be a guy.

Meanwhile, Josh is still standing there, unsure of exactly what to say after all of this. He blurts out the only thing he can think of which is “Wow that must have been fun, Dylan!” Then one other thing comes to mind. Josh suddenly blurts out “Our dorm room is now quite a mess. Do you want me to give you some help cleaning it up?”

Of course, my readers all know that Josh has other thoughts as well, for now left unsaid.

To be continued…

[sebbie]

One thing is for certain, if Dylan had any previous doubts in the matter, Dylan has learned today that solo jerk-off sessions can be fun, as in really, really fun. Dylan no longer thinks that solo sex as an inferior, second-rate method for sexual play. The orgasm Dylan just had was a first-rate, top tier orgasm, and not something that is easily forgotten.

Some guys like to think back and compare orgasms that they have had in the past, and maybe even assign a numerical score from 1-10, with 1 being not that good to 10 being absolutely first rate. Dylan thinks to himself that this one had to rate at least a “9” on a 10-point scale. Some time ago, Dylan decided that he would reserve the full 10 point rating to an orgasm that he had with a female partner. The problem for Dylan is that in his young life he has not yet had an orgasm that he felt merited a “10” on a ten-point scale.

Dylan is more than a little perplexed by all of this—a lot perplexed. “Is this the way it is SUPPOSED to be for guys”, Dylan thinks. It is tough to know, very tough. All sorts of interesting stuff has been going on in the last few weeks.

Dylan knows that from his perspective, this all started that night Dylan ran into Bill and Joe wearing their straps and compression gear in the dorm hallway. From that very moment in time, Dylan somehow knew that something was up, but he was uncertain with respect to exactly what that something was. I guess every guy is familiar with that feeling. Something happens, often visual, and the guy feel this funny sensation of tensing in the groin area. Only as guys get older do they start to associate this initial tensing in the groin area as the very initial point of sexual arousal. The sensation is not unpleasant, in fact it can be quite pleasant. This initial tensing is frequently followed almost immediately by the release of a drop or two of pre cum. Many guys are surprised by this, thinking that any release of liquid is associated with a full blown erection followed by an ejaculation. Young teens are particularly mystified by what is going on.

At age 19, Dylan knows what is going on, at least he thinks he knows. He is still more than a little uneasy. At that very moment in time, just looking at Bill and Joe in their straps and compression gear, Dylan knew where he wanted to be as well—that is, wearing the same type of gear Bill and Joe had. That , in turn led conversations with Bill and Joe and ultimately to the Amazon® order and the various items in it, each one designed to do something to a guy’s psyche.
Dylan has been “messing” with Josh, thinking up ways to reveal each of these items to Josh slowly, or one at-a-time. Initially, Dylan was quite uncertain about how Josh would react to all of this. Maybe Josh would conclude that Dylan has some mental problems related to sex and sexuality, as in operating “a few fries short of a “Happy Meal”.

To the great relief of Dylan, that has not been Josh’s reaction at all, so near as Dylan can tell. Dylan wonders now if Josh is unique among guys their age, but then he thinks back to Bill, Joe, Tony and Donovan and their various “antics” that all seem to have sexual overtones. Indeed, Josh seems mesmerized when watching what Dylan is doing to himself. Not mesmerized enough to yet say “Dylan, I would like to join with you. You are just having too much fun to be doing this all alone!” But Josh is clearly not in any sort of misery, either.

Think for a moment about each of the items in Dylan’s order. Each item was specially selected to generate feelings of arousal, and the various items accomplish this objective very well. Granted, today’s demo was conducted using that little thong, but that by no means suggests that the other items would not be at least as much fun for a guy who wants to try this.

Josh knows that there is more to this, much more, and so does Dylan. There are also lots of concerns as this all goes along. A basic problem is that Dylan is having too much fun to stop, and Josh is getting dragged in as well.

To be continued…

[sebbie]

The necessity to clean up the dorm room after Dylan’s powerful ejaculation while wearing the thong underwear has turned into something of a conversation starter between Dylan and Josh. Dylan is learning some things about himself and how his body responds to different situations it finds itself in for sure. But Josh too in just observing Dylan as Dylan pleasures himself has learned some new things about himself and how his mind and body interact.

I guess that most guys end up being more than a little bit unnerved by the whole situation of getting to observe another guy in self-pleasuring and especially right into ejaculatory mode, as Dylan just did. But wait a second. On line, there are tons of videos that are easily found (and usually free) that show guys masturbating to ejaculation. In this day and age, a male college student would have to be a technology fool to not have uncovered and watched some of these.

But what does this all mean? Is any guy who does this gay not straight? What about the guys who watch these but still claim to be arrow straight? Are they just not being truthful to themselves about their gay or perhaps bisexual feelings. In short, what is going on here? Further, according to sex surveys, a lot of guys who claim to be straight admit to the fact that at some point in their lives, often as a teenager, they engaged in either male mutual masturbation or a so-called circle jerk involving more than two guys their age. Sex therapists usually say that if these represent basically isolated events, they mean almost nothing in terms of whether a guy will ultimately turn out to be straight or gay. In short, a young guy’s interest in seeing other young guys engage in masturbation is not a good predictor of whether or not a guy is ultimately straight or gay.

But then, all of this hinges on an outdated and largely discounted view of sexuality, that guys easily fit into only two rigid categories either entirely straight or entirely gay. No one who is serious about that subject sees sexuality is such simple, rigid terms any more. Whatever the implication of Josh being OK with even being in the dorm room when Dylan was pleasuring himself, too much should not be implied.


Dylan was clearly enjoying himself and so was Josh as an observer. No one caught a VD or was otherwise harmed in any way in the process. As a young teen, had this happened to Dylan, Dylan would have worried a lot about being teased and bullied, but both of them are now college students.

In trying to determine what is going on in Dylan’s head, Josh is also trying to figure out what is going on in his own mind and body.

The conversation goes something like this:

Dylan: “I see now why some guys like to wear thong underwear. The design is really fun to wear.”

Josh: “I noticed that!”

Dylan: “It’s really a combination of interesting stuff all hitting me all at once, the snug fit of the pouch, the upward pressure just behind my balls, and the feel of the elastic back cutting my butt. The combination overwhelms”

Josh: “That is fun? I’m being serious now.”

Dylan: “I know that you are. Well, at first I was apprehensive. I put on the thong and it felt uncomfortable in various places. But, strangely enough, my attention was drawn to my groin area, and the funny part is that almost immediately I started to feel tense, and before I even realized it, I was starting to get hard. But I needed to go to class. I pulled on my skinny jeans and sneakers and headed off to class. I thought the skinny jeans would settle me down some, but they didn’t help one bit. . In fact, they made matters worse. I spent the entire class period thinking about how good I felt in my groin area…Not sure what the lecture was about as my attention was not on the class.”

Josh: “Really? So this has been going on for some time?”

Dylan, looking sullen and staring at his feet: “Unfortunately, yes.”

Josh: “I’m beginning to feel sorry for you and the dilemma you got yourself into.”

Dylan: I ”I’m congratulating myself for making it through the entire class and then walking back to the dorm without ejaculating. But by the time I got to the dorm room I knew that I was desperate to get off, so I quickly stripped off the skinny jeans and started stroking the underside of my penis still inside the thong pouch. I thought I would have some time to do this before you got back from class. That is when you wandered in, back to the dorm for a class that let out early. But I was too far along to stop.”

Josh: “I am beginning to understand how this all happened now.”

Dylan: “I guess at this point that I need to confess to you that I have had this “thing” for various kinds of clothing, especially stuff that fits really snug in the groin. You can see the jeans I like to wear, but there is more.”

Josh: “If getting off this way is that much fun, what really is the harm enjoying your clothing items?”

Dylan:” I used to think that I was the only guy who did this, but then I ran into Bill and Joe, and then Tony and Donovan. All four of them were choosing clothing items that could be errr… erotic at least under some circumstances. So what I do to myself can’t be that uncommon for a lot of guys my age. I keep noticing that more and more bricks-and-mortar retail stores are stocking items that might work, and that guys must be buying it or it would not be in the stores. You can find stuff on line, but, interestingly, also in department stores, even places like Wal mart”

Josh: “You have got my attention. My mind is starting to wander into the same places yours has been. Maybe we need to go on a shopping trip to some stores just to see what is out there, just for fun.”

Dylan: “You got it. I might find some new stuff that I would enjoy wearing too!”

To be continued…

[sebbie]

Dylan and Josh agree that they are going to go on a shopping trip this weekend that in part will be a search for clothing items that might prove useful in pleasuring themselves. On line shopping can be interesting in this regard, but there is no substitute for seeing the particular items up close before buying them. Too, Dylan, in his shopping trips, has been noticing some things that seem to be drawing attention to this. Increasingly, items have been showing up in retail stores in recent months that have attracted his attention.

Of course, this isn’t entirely new for sure. Not that many years ago, it was possible to walk into not only a sporting goods store, but also into many mass market retailers and find entire racks of stretchy swimming briefs in a host of different colors and sizes. For guys who found stretchy swim briefs to be a real turn-on, just SEEING these racks of briefs hanging there in a variety of shapes, sizes and colors was a fun turn-on. It was not even necessary to make a purchase, but just being able to look at the snug briefs hanging on the racks in a row and maybe touch a few of them was enough to send a guy’s pre cum making factory into high gear overdrive. Guys knew this

Now, the vast majority of guys who wear swim briefs either as an outer garment or even as an inner garment under board shorts make their purchases on line, and it is rare to find a bricks-and-mortal retailer, even a sporting goods store, that stocks a selection of any number of options, if at all. Usually the selection is limited to branded Speedos ® with 3-inch sides in black or navy blue, if that. Customers who ask for anything more (or less) are usually routed to the on-line version of the store, but in order to make a purchase there, guys would at least need to be old enough to have a credit card, or be secure enough to explain to their parents what they are doing and why. Usually, given the fact that a guy normally likes to keep his interest in such things deeply hidden, the latter probably isn’t going to happen.

Also, not that many years ago, men’s thong underwear was very popular for a short period of time. But at least outside of big urban areas, this has largely disappeared as well. Again, guys who want to wear thong underwear are pretty much dealing with on line retailers. Not that many years ago, Jockey ® carried a line of very brief thong underwear for men, some all cotton but a lot of them made from a very stretchy cotton-Lycra ® fabric in a design that touched all the ‘right’ places. These were readily available at any retail outlet that stocked the jockey brand, and were very fun to wear in all the right (or wrong) ways. Alas, these disappeared from the Jockey ® line a number of years ago.

The same is true for guys who think they might enjoy wearing an “old school” athletic supporter (jock strap) with or without a hard cup. At one time these were most commonly sold at drug stores and sporting goods stores. Drug stores typically sold this gear along side other ‘protective’ gear that stretches, such as elbow, knee and ankle supports. And the sporting goods store would have an entire wall devoted to the items in all sorts of shapes and sizes. A bevy of teen agers convinced their parents that they needed a strap and maybe a cup because the school coach was requiring that they wear one for some physical activity that they were engaging in at school, perhaps as part of a team sport. Perhaps more than a few young guys may have simply made up a story like this simply because they were turned on by the prospect of wearing the gear.

Not only that, the young guy’s peers were probably telling ‘funny’ stories about what might happen if a guy got an erection while wearing a strap, but in particular a strap with a cup too small to hold an erect penis. While these stories may have terrified some young guys, they were also a source of fascination, as guys wondered if their own bodies would react in the specific ways their peers were describing in detail. The poor guy was scared but in an odd way also aroused by the entire prospect of getting to be in a strap and cup. Besides, if it were true that the coach was actually requiring that guys wear these at school, best to run an ‘experiment’ to check this all out at home, alone, in the privacy of your own room to make sure your mind and body can ‘handle’ the situation without something embarrassing happening when you get out and get into this gear with your buddies present. Same deal with swim briefs being required for guys who want to be on the school swim team, exactly.

On the other hand for guys with an interest in snug-fitting clothing of various kinds, the situation has improved in an assortment of ways. Only a few years ago, guys all wore jeans that were very roomy in the crotch and fit baggy, perhaps very baggy, from thigh to ankle. Finding jeans that fit snugger in the butt and crouch and tapering in the thigh to the ankle was very difficult, if not impossible. The narrowest jeans available tapered to 15 inches at the ankle. Anything that fit snugger than that, with a narrower leg was referred to as a ‘girly’ jean and not something that any ‘real’ guy would ever be caught wearing.

Really skinny jeans really got their start in women’s fashion, as women seemed to like the body-accenting look of a slim and tight fit. Women started wearing thong underwear with slim and tight jeans over. For women, slim and tight soon became even slimmer and even tighter. Manufacturers soon discovered that they could only get the look that women wanted and make it possible for women to get in and out of the jeans if they added Lycra® to the denim blend. So, ordinary denim quickly became stretch denim.

Manufacturers making men’s jeans discovered that there might be male customers out there who wanted a slimmer and snigger fit, despite the “girly jeans” issue. The big jeans maker Levis® first introduced the 511® design, with a much slimmer and snugger fit than a traditional Levis 505® design. This was followed by the discovery that there will guys out there who wanted to wear something even snugger and downright tight in the legs, much closer to women’s jeans in cut. A few adventuresome guys had already started to buy women’s jeans to get that fit, although since guys are constructed quite differently from women, this was not a satisfactory solution. The 511® tapered to an approximate 14-inch ankle.

Super Skinny for men was born. In the Levis ® line this was introduced as the 510 ® tapering to only about 13-inch ankle with a still snugger fit in the butt, crotch and thigh as well. These were not that easy to get in and out of because the denim had no stretch.

Initially however, US jeans manufacturers were reluctant to take the step that they had done in women’s designs, specifically, put Lycra ® in the denim blend so it would stretch for a skin tight body fit. But many guys were wearing Lycra® blend skin tight tights for things like running in cold weather, and they did not seem bothered by the argument that what they were wearing was somehow girly. So maybe some guys would accept skinny jeans denim that stretched.

It was the guys in many parts of Southeast Asia that really set the new styling trend for guys in other parts of the world. They liked super skinny jeans very much, and had no reservations about the idea of using a stretch fabric to get the skin-tight look they wanted tapering to a 12-inch ankle (or less). For much of Southeast Asia, super-skinny stretch jeans have become not only a fashion trend but almost a required uniform for young guys. For guys elsewhere who like the look these jeans can be ordered direct from Asia via online retailers like Aliexpress.com (search on ‘men’s skinny jeans’) [A word of warning; These are made for Asian guys who are typically smaller and skinnier than most American guys, and expect the same size to fit way snugger than if you were buying from an American retailer.]

Increasingly, however, western retailers big and small, on line and retail stores, are stocking more and more men’s skinny jeans that are made from denim that contains Lycra. The Asian look in jeans has caught on elsewhere. Dylan likes the skinny jeans he wore to class, very much it seems, and he thinks it would be fun to introduce Josh to them. The problem is that guys, even 19-year olds are not supposed to talk to each other about this stuff.

There is more to this story, much more…