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Old 04-25-2016, 12:46 PM
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Default Bill and Joe learn more about their bodies (and minds)

Bill and Joe are fooling around with something that is really interesting, and learning things that could be important and useful to both of them in their entire adult lives. One of these things is learning more about exactly what makes them feel, in slang, “feel horny”.

A lot of guys would say that they already completely understand the answer to that. My only response to that is to say ah sure, that is what YOU think!” Even guys just past puberty know that what happens is just a heck of a lot more complicated than that, involving all sorts of weird feelings and sensation that seem to happen at what are seen as “inopportune” circumstances, times and places.

By the time a guy reaches young adulthood, say the 18 or 19 as is the case for Bill and Joe, they have already come to grips with a lot of this. I suspect that every guy, buried in his brain somewhere, has an indelible mental “list” of things that happened involving them and the actions of their penises, often “inadvertently” and the circumstances, place and time when each event happened. At the top of this list are situations where an erection occurred in a public or semi-public place (such as a gym locker room with other guys wandering around) which in turn leads to a full-scale uncontrollable ejaculation complete with a big wet semen stain. For a teen guy, this has to be nearly the most embarrassing event ever and gets etched into the mind forever.

But, by the time a guy gets to be 18 or 19, he has probably learned at least something about ejaculatory control so that these kinds of out-of-control events occur far less frequently, if at all. Bill and Joe at this point in their lives, certainly know SOMETHING about ejaculatory control, that is, delaying a full-scale orgasm until they are in a good “situation” to get off, in the early teen years, with a degree of privacy, or “with a favorite girl”.

Learning ejaculatory control is, well, I’ve often thought, is about as interesting as it gets. This is due in part to the opposing forces at work. It has always seemed to me that the more the mind wants to tell the body that I really do not want to ejaculate right now because this is not an appropriate time or place, the more the body keeps telling the mind “but I really NEED to!” “but I really NEED to!” These opposing forces, the mental effort by the guy to delay orgasm counterbalanced by the building physical sensation on needing to drive many guys absolutely bananas, and are the real source of terror about a guy’s sexual being. It is as if the penis is playing a game of its own with the mind, and the penis is playing to win.

Let us think about Bill and Joe’s situation at their current age versus what would have likely happened had they done the same thing at, say, age12 or 13. Had I been 12 or 13 and been “required” to wear the gear that Bill and Joe are wearing, I would have likely gone into a full-scale erection and orgasm lightning fast. I’m not sure that I would have even been able to get myself into the cup, strap and compression gear at that age before that happened. Think about the gear and the situation. In retrospect, at that age, had I known what I know now, I would have silently been clamoring to get the same gear anyway. That is what is loopy about sexual turn-ons at that age. A guy wants to avoid these situations while quietly seeking them out at the same time. How weird!

But Bill and Joe are obviously young adults and in complete control of their bodies. Yah sure! They both were able to get into their gear and make the short walk to the gym without going into an orgasm. Now they have to confront the various gym machines, not to mention encountering Dylan who seems more than a little “interested” in what the guys are wearing. But more about Dylan and Dylan’s possible “hang-ups” later. For now, Dylan is simply a quiet “observer” of all of this.

Now Bill and Joe are contemplating getting on the stationary bike. The strap and cup are obviously held tightly against the groin with the cup fitting snugly around the top of the penis. Now, with each cycle of the pedals on the bike, that same cup cannot remain stationary. Instead, it is going to have to slide, if even by only a small amount, in relation to the penis securely contained within. Just the THOUGHT of this happening can be a turn-on, without the physical sensation of the cup moving back and forth along the penis. Of course, there will be some physical sensation from all of this as well.

Penises do what penises do. When the penis senses this movement surrounding it, generally there is a response which involves a clear tensing up sensation with increased blood flow which means that the penis is going to gradually press more firmly against the walls of the cup. These sensations all work together, making each cycle of the bike wheel more and more pleasant.

It is at least very difficult, if not impossible, to go into a full-blown orgasm while confined inside of the cup. Part of the problem is that the physical sensations from the cup walls are very subtle. Maybe more important is that there is just not enough room to get into a full-blown erection. Still, the urge to ejaculate keeps building with each pedal cycle. The entire workout can be very enjoyable, to say the least.

….To be continued
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:44 PM
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Default Sizing up what the other guys are wearing…

Neither Joe nor Bill were big on working out in high school. The whole idea of going regularly to the student gym is a novel idea for them. But they both decided that developing a regular workout schedule would be helpful in dealing with the pressures of study and daily college life. Why not? Plus, both of their bodies could use the exercise. Not that either Bill or Joe are significantly overweight: they aren’t. But, both of them are carrying a bit more flab than they would like, flab they hope to turn into muscle.

College can be funny. Some of the “rules” guys applied in high school are the same as in college, but many aren’t. With respect to dress for what was known in high school as physical education, or phys ed for short, the males followed what I would call the “herd instinct” rule. For a high school student in a phys ed class, you want to make sure that what you are wearing is identical or nearly identical to what the other guys appear to be wearing. In the high schools Bill and Joe attended, this meant basically cotton or poly-blend shorts, loose-fitting that extended down to cover the knee area. The top was always a loose fitting, oversized tee, often with a logo or silly statement in big lettering on the front.

There are unwritten ‘rules in high school that are rigid as well. Guys wore loose fitting boxer shorts, not quite as long to the knee as the outer garment, but close to that. All the guys wore those. The rule may have been unwritten, but was still very much in place.

In college, Bill and Joe, in wearing their compression tees and shorts, had already “violated” a key rule from high school.

One of the interesting aspects of going to a student gym in part is to see exactly what the other guys are wearing for workouts. Obviously, the “rules” that apply are somewhat different, and maybe looser and more flexible than they were in high school. To be sure, some of the guys are wearing cotton/poly shorts that extend to their knees. A few more are clad in sweat pants.

But there are two guys who are wearing something very different from either of these, what appears to be wrestling singlets, with the white “asics®” logo on the lower left leg. One of these is in black: the other on navy blue. What are these guys, anyway? Freshman members of the college wrestling team?

It turns out no. But they are freshman members of the college ROWING Team. Now the rowing team has their own gym equipment but it is a mile (or more) across campus from the freshman dorm. It turns out, the two rowing team members, Donovan and Tony, live in the same dorm that Bill and Joe live, but on the second, not the first floor.

Appropriate garb for a team rower is very similar to wrestling garb. In fact, many competitive rowers wear wrestling gear for working out. A wrestling singlet fits much the same way as compression shorts like Bill and Joe are wearing, with some key differences. A wrestling siglet is one piece not two piece with straps that pull the singlet snug in the groin area and go up over the shoulders.

Of course, one basic idea in rowing is to attempt to develop muscular and powerful shoulders. To the extent that the workout is successful, the shoulder build will mean that the straps of the singlet will snug the singlet up ever tighter into the groin area and buttocks. Rowing also tends to peal off any fat or flabbiness in the buttocks, resulting in a tighter looking butt not to mention the singlet snugging up in the crack between the buttocks. So the rower soon starts to look quite athletic, broad shoulders, tight butt, strong thighs all accentuated by the wrestling singlet. Joe and Bill are making mental notes of all of this as Tony and Donovan begin their 30 minute workouts on two of the rowing machines.

The stationary bike will accomplish some of this, most notably building muscle n the thigh area. But stationary bikes do nothing for the shoulders. Joe and Bill start to become very interested in what Donovan and Tony are doing. Meanwhile, Dylan is quietly watching all of this too, and taking note of how fit Tony and Donovan are.

….To be continued
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:42 PM
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Default A Rower’s Build

A wrestling singlet makes perfect sense as workout garb for a competitive rower. Unlike what Bill and Joe have been wearing, basically a compression tee along with a separate pair of compression shorts, a wrestling singlet, like the ones Tony and Donavon are wearing is all one piece.

Bill and Joe have always admired the “swimmers build” of young athletes their age, but the path to getting there is not always clear. The so-called swimmers build is common to 19 year old male competitive swimmers. I guess the key characteristics of a swimmers build would be 1. Low body fat, 2. Narrow waist, typically around 30 inches 3. Broad shoulders, 4. Large lateral muscles or lats, giving the chest a distinct triangular shape uncommon in non-athletes, and 5.tight (6-pack) revealing abdominal muscles. Strong swimmers often also have oversized thigh muscles too, although these are most common with competitive divers.

All of this is possible using swimming as the main exercise. But any competitive swimmer nowadays spend nearly as much time working out in the gym and weight room than in the pool. The gym work builds particularly the upper body chest, shoulders and related muscles necessary to swim fast.

A lot of this is the same, pretty much for college-level competitive rowers. Like swimming, competitive rowing is very much a full body exercise, but if anything is even more of a workout for the upper body, shoulders, lats, abs and thigh muscles. Given this, competitive rowing could be a faster and steadier route to a swimmers build than competitive swimming. Rowing really puts the emphasis on building the shoulders and upper body.

Wrestling singlets provide a fun fit, at least as snug as the compression gear that Bill and Joe are wearing, with one important difference. They are one piece, and are held in place via shoulder straps. The rowing exercise builds shoulders, and as shoulder muscles grow, the shoulder straps have to go up over progressively bigger and stronger shoulders. And as this happens, the wrestling singlet is going to. keep pressing up tighter and snugger into the groin area. This is, well, interesting as more and more pressure will be placed on a guy’s private parts, and the more the guy works out, the snugger this is going to get.

A related issue is what, if anything, does a competitive rower wear under the singlet, underwear, a strap or maybe nothing at all. If nothing at all, the singlet is going to be at least as revealing of body parts as any simmers jammer. An interesting topic top research on the Web is what is the recommended wear for under compression gear, whether the gear is shorts, cycling gear, or a wrestling singlet. There seems to be little agreement on this.
What is happening now is that Tony and Donovan are standing there getting ready to do a workout of the stationary rowing machines at the gym. Bill and Joe are engaging Tony and Donovan in a pleasant conversation, but silently checking out what they are wearing and how it fits on their “rowers’ bodies. Both Bill and Joe are thinking exactly the same thing, as in “I want to get myself one of those.” Meanwhile, Dylan too is starting to think that this is exactly where he wants to be too.

None of what is going on is lost on any of the participants. Nor is the “rower’s body” lost on them. Need to make another visit to the big-box sporting goods store. Maybe Dylan would like to go along on the trip.

….To be continued
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:48 AM
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Default I want one of those!

It’s funny how all of this works! Guys frequently like to act as if they are completely oblivious as to what clothes other guys are wearing, and this is doubly true when what the other guys are wearing is made of a Lycra/Spandex fabric, and fits really tight. Of course, every guy is keenly aware of anything that fits really snug in the groin area. All of this is learned at a very early age, perhaps before puberty when the guy is only 8 or 10 years old, maybe earlier. Guys just learning that their penises are sensitive to touching and rubbing get this (crazy?) idea that wearing clothing that fits snuggly around their penises, particularly a slick-and-stretchy fabric, might generate some interesting and fun feelings as well. So a lot of guys at a very early age go on a quest to find clothing that will stimulate them in these ways, something as an experiment, of sorts. Of course, guys are also almost invariably reluctant (embarrassed) to admit that they have these interests to their parents or to their peer males of similar age. That is part of what makes the entire situation so interesting but also more than a bit scary.

By the time a guy reaches the age of Bill, Joe, Tony and Donovan, they have already probably had the opportunity to run an assortment of different experiments involving their bodies and snug-fitting clothing of various kinds. Finally away from their parents, college guys have the opportunity to try some stuff that they were likely too embarrassed to try when they were living at home. Sometimes, the idea of having a dorm room roommate there on a constant basis makes college guys reluctant to do as much experimenting with all of this as they might be interesting in doing if they were living alone. Bill and Joe obviously got over this and worked their way out of any inhibitions they might have initially had about revealing all of this to each other as dorm room roommates. A lot of the inhibitions relate to the guy’s often deeply hidden beliefs that these interests might suggest to the roommate that the guy is a closeted gay person.

So, here is the problem or issue. Nearly every guy is deeply curious about the entire issue of whether or not his feelings, and ultimately sexual orientation is the same or not the same as that of his peer males. This rather drives everything a teen male thinks about and does in this regard. One of the key components of all of this is whether or not the other guys get the same or similar sensations and are struggling with the same problems or issues such as erections at inopportune or inappropriate times, the occasional ejaculation as a consequence, etc. etc. The clothing issue relates to whether the other guys are all able to tolerate getting into certain clothing items but I am not…jock straps, brief style swimwear , compression shorts, and now wrestling and rowing singlets. Guys always find it interesting to quietly observe the others guys getting into these kinds of gear in part to determine exactly whether or not the other guys have each resolved the potential problems at hand, in particular, observed evidence of erections, drops of pre cum etc etc. Or does all of this somehow get resolved and as the guy reaches young adulthood, all of this is somehow disappears, attention turns instead to increasing interest in finding a specific partner for sexual stuff. In short, as a guy reaches adulthood, all of this stuff regarding snug-fitting clothing perhaps gradually becomes less and less important.

Maybe, but Maybe not. Bill and Joe were certainly observing Tony and Donovan in their rowing singlets, all of them. Nearly every guy irrespective of sexual orientation has this side of fascination with how the other guy’s penis is faring in snug fitting clothing and what might be happening to the other guy as a consequence, and the rowing singlet is something new, something neither Bill nor Joe in their young lives had ever observed before. Bill and Joe are also wondering about how their own bodies would fare in a rowing singlet.

Bill and Joe are now asking Tony and Donovan where they got their singlets, clearly wondering where they found them. Tony’s response:

“These are tough to find in the sporting goods stores. Mine is an asics branded singlet. They are readily available on Amazon on line.”

Now Bill and Joe need to figure out how to place an Amazon order from their dorm room, and get he singlets put on a credit card, and delivered to their room. Certainly this is not something that either of them would want to mail to their permanent home addresses.

Meanwhile Dylan has been quietly watching all of this, saying nothing. Dylan is no different from any other guy his age with many of the same thoughts and ideas racing through his head. Dylan is “interested” too about what he thinks might be going on with the others, but maybe just a little scared too. But he is also starting to get “ideas” in his head.

…..To be continued
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Old 06-10-2016, 12:45 PM
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This is one of those great mysteries of being a human being, and Joe, Bill, Tony and Donovan are finding themselves right in the middle of it. Herein also might be the key to understanding an important element of how human sexuality works at its most basic level, straight, gay or somewhere in between. The picture we have here is of four college-age guys working out at the student gym, all wearing snug-fitting clothing, clothing that might instantaneously reveal what is happening with their anatomy. For each, a significant erection is going to be quite obvious as the outline will clearly show to everyone seeing them at the gym.

Even more fascinating is the idea that without an erection, if the guy is at all sexually focused, drops of precum are going to be forming, drops that have no place to go except to form a wet stain on the snug-fitting Lycra/Spandex garments. No wait, Joe and Bill are wearing their straps and cups under their compression shorts. This should prevent stains from forming even while creating an interesting shape under the Lycra where their penises should be. But what about Tony and Donovan? What, if anything are they wearing underneath their rowing singlets? Good question! This deserves further “research” for sure.

Some guys are perhaps secretly “interested” in all of this and in particular what is going on in the heads and bodies of the other guys wearing snug-fitting garments, but other guys claim not at all. I think that this all has to do with the straight-gay continuum of human sexuality. The guys at the far straight end of the straight side at least claim that what is going on this the guys around them in these respects, and only get sexual pleasure in relation to the female anatomy.

But other guys might not be as certain. How would you react if you had observed that a college buddy wearing a wrestling singlet or compression short was clearly staining them with drops of precum. If you were wearing similar garb, would what you are wearing remain unstained if you KNEW this was happening to your college bud. (How do you react to noticing that your male college bud was masturbating while lying in the dorm bed across the room from you? Is this a turn-on for you or are you somehow offended?) What if both of you are claiming to be straight? Is your reaction to want to go into masturbation mode yourself, or not? Quite a dilemma to deal with, for sure.

Maybe this whole subject of what is straight versus gay versus someplace in between not clear at all. Maybe only a few of the guys who claim to be perfectly straight are truly unaffected by what is going on with the males at the gym around them. Maybe none? Maybe most, if absolutely not every guy, would at least secretly “enjoy” finding themselves in the situation Tony, Donovan, Bill and Joe now find themselves in studying each other and what is happening to their bodies. Maybe nearly every guy has a secret “gay” side in this respect, a side that reveals a sexual fascination in certain aspects of other guys. Meanwhile, I am unable to imagine any guy who claims to be even a little gay not enjoying the situation of the four.

These are not dumb questions for sure. They are profound questions. Ponder them.

To be continued……
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:09 PM
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Meanwhile, clad in a loose-fitting tee shirt and equally loose fitting cotton shorts that extend nearly to his knees, Dylan, the dorm mate has been quietly watching all of this, and way feel down starting to wonder a lot about how he might look and feel clad in something more snug and form-fitting. Truth is, the clothes being worn by Tony, Donovan, Bill and Joe are starting to have something of a psychological impact on Dylan. Truth is, Dylan had started thinking about this that night in the dorm when he encountered Bill and Joe wandering down the dorm hallway between the men’s bathroom and their dorm room. The effect of seeing Joe and Bill clad in the snug-fitting compression gear is really subtle, at least at first, but the visual has been growing on Dylan. Somehow, Dylan can’t get out of his mind how he might look and feel wearing similar items.

Dylan had never really thought about this before, at least not for any significant period of time. Like Bill and Joe, Dylan had always considered himself to be ruler-straight, and certainly not at all interested in guys as sexual partners. But suddenly Dylan is caught up in something he did not think could happen to him. His mind keeps wandering over into thinking about how the four other guys at the gym are feeling clad in all of this snug-fitting gear. He is asking himself the question “What is happening to these guys, both physically and psychologically?” Asking himself these questions over and over is doing funny things to Dylan, things that Dylan is not really yet willing to admit are happening. Just looking at the other guys clad in their gear is affecting Dylan’s brain in a funny way, and Dylan is starting to feel something in his groin area now too. This is quickly leading to the idea that Dylan wants to get some of the same kind of workout gear the other guys are wearing. But how is he going to pull this all off? Dylan is starting to explore a side of his being that he did not realize existed before. Specifically, there are instances where supposedly straight guys can get aroused by just seeing other guys.

Meanwhile, Bill and Joe are facing their own dilemma, clad in their compression tees and shorts with their straps underneath. Bill and Joe both quickly realize that the singlets Tony and Donovan are wearing represent another level of what they have been doing with their compression tees and shorts. Tony and Donovan are encouraging Bill and Joe to keep ramping it up, by making some on-line purchases of wrestling/rowing singlets. Bill and Joe think that is, well, at least an interesting idea to pursue. But how?

Another puzzle Bill and Joe are trying to figure out is what Tony and Donovan wear UNDER the singlets. Are they commando? It’s pretty obvious to Tony and Donovan that Bill and Joe are wearing straps underneath their compression shorts. The outline of the leg straps extending diagonally across their butts, and the slight bulges from the cups are pretty obvious to anyone who looks. But Tony and Donovan have no obvious leg straps or cups, yet they do not appear exactly to be commando underneath either. Something is keeping them from having a clear penis outline under the singlets, but what?

Yes, but what? Bill decides that the only way to resolve this one is to simply blurt out “Tony and Donovan, what do you wear under those Singlets?”

Tony responds: “Well, we tried various ideas on that, plain old cotton briefs, a Lycra swim brief, but nothing we tried seemed to work as well as what we finally found.”

Bill: “What was that?”

Tony: “Why, what works the best is a pair of thong underwear for men. The pouch keeps our male anatomy in place and covered , and the single strap in the rear slides right between our glutes. The feel is a great sensation when we are rowing, either on the water or on a machine at the gym. The thong makes our rowing time pass quickly (hee hee).

Dylan is also quietly taking this all in, even as his body seems to be responding as well in funny ways to the information he is learning.

To be continued…..
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:01 PM
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Gym exercise programs are difficult for a lot of people to maintain. A large share of the problem is that gym workouts can often be boring as all get out, but especially aerobic workouts that involve an activity for, say, 30 minutes non-stop. There are plenty of examples of these at the gym..the classic example I suppose is the treadmill. Without some diversion, working out for 30 minutes on a treadmill can be really boring.

Another boring workout device is a stationary bike. That is why there has been so much efforts to do things like set up TV screens that mimic what a rider might see on an actual bike ride, which is much less boring.

There are also other boring exercises and machines aimed at exercises that take place over, say a 30 minute period or longer,, things like steppers and stationary rowing machines. Generally speaking, its difficult for guys to maintain their workouts if the exercises are boring. I suppose we should also include simple walking and running as other boring exercises. Where lap swimming fits into all of this is a good starting point for discussion.

Generally speaking, guys tolerate exercises involving muscle building such as weight lifting far better and tend to get less bored with exercises that last a shorter period of time. The problem is that good exercises may very well need to include the boring stuff as well as the not-so-boring stuff in combination.

So what does all of this have toi do with Bill, Joe, Tony, Donovan and Dylan? Well for starters, a good daily exercise routine with a combination of aerobic and non-aerobic exercises, perhaps started in College, is something that a guy will want to maintain for a lifetime. There are many good combinations of the two, and each guy needs to sort out what works best for himself as an individual.

I know many of you are wondering what the “twist” here is going to be. Well, the twist is how boring or enjoyable you find your workout to be in part depends on what you wear to engage in the workout.

Bill and Joe have already sensed this, given what they are wearing. Tony and Donovan are on to this as well, given what they are wearing for their stationary rowing workouts. Dylan, clad in loose-fitting gym shorts and an equally loose-fitting tee shirt, so far at least, has not quite figured this all out.

Making a serious workout more fun and less boring is at least in part dependent on what the guy chooses to wear for the workout. Workout time almost always moves along a little faster for a guy if he is at least a little turned on, as in, feeling at least a little warm in the groin area. I suppose the “classic” example of this is the lap swimmer clad in a Speedo® as the consummate illustration of what I mean, but what is going on here runs parallel to this. Bill and Joe are clad in compression gear with straps and cups underneath. Tony and Donovan are clad in singlets both wearing thongs with cords running snuggly up their respective butts. These four guys are all certainly feeling something that seems erotic, even before beginning to exercise.

Bill and Joe are both planning on first hopping on the stationary bikes for a 30-minute ride. Tony and Donovan are hopping on the stationary rowers for a 30-minute ride as well. All this movement given the items they are wearing, well, could cause more stuff to happen. We will just have to see! Poor Dylan! He seems to know that something is up, but he is not quite sure what, yet. Is there anything somehow “wrong” with all of this? I think not!

…..To be continued.
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