are speedos just for gays ( Or do threy want them to be)

[PSDave]

Question. When the Gay Pride parade happens in SF and a large number of guys are dancing along the parade route in speedos, guys along the route watching are in speedos what do you see in the paper. Pictures of the gays in their speedos. That is the point several of us are making. When gays wear them in parades etc it is a portrayal of the gay man. When every newspaper coverage of a gay event shows the guys in speedos it is only natural str8 guys to want to avoid wearing the suits, even if they would like to, because the public in general, thanks to the pics of gay events, sees the speedo as a gay thing.
Speedos may not just be for gays, but outside of competitive swimming the major majority of guys in speedos are gay or over 50 - or both. TV and movies have picked up on this image and also put gays in speedos when they are at the pool or beach. It is a case of perception. Gay Pride = guys in speedos. Gay men in movies/TV = guys in speedos. Speedo = Gay. It may not be fact, but it is how the speedo and men wearing them are perceived.

[Byron]

Excellent equation there to neatly illustrate the situation and, as any p.r man will tell you, perception is all.

The prior Biblical quotation ("let" is missing at the beginning) is rather unfortunate as "sin" comes into it and it begs the question who exactly has been sinning in the first place?.
I will therefore substitute a journalistic one : "never let the facts get in the way of a good story".

(Btw, gramatically you can't have a major majority)

[louis]

California Dolphin,
I cant quite understand your first paragraphe please precise.
Allso your second paragraphe, but if its what I think what it means:
I am pecfectly at ease in my speedos.
I neverhave bene to a gay bar, night club, or gay beach resort or pool,if I ever go I wont hesitate one single minute to wear the most skimpy suit or shorts I have.
I would wear my speedos at any beach , pool or at any water sports facility gay or not.
But I would certainly not take part in any gay parade contortionning my body while spreading my legs, doing sexual natured gestures.
This being sead the reason is simply because I respect non gay spectators , plus gay spectators that hesitate to wear there speedos exactly because of what they see, allso because of kids that may watch the parade seeng things that they certainly should not see
And because my beleaf is that there is outher ways to promote homosexuality and contrubute so that may generaly be accepted as human beings so that all in general will accepte that being gay is just a way of life like any outher.And gays and heteros... canperfectly live in harmony together with respect and dignity.
lets admit it those that do such things in gay parades are cetainly not helping the cause.
This is not a question of being a religious fanatic like the traditionnalist fondamentalist we so often see in the USA, or being any kind of pudish exagerated person , its just common sense showing respect for people that are different then us and if the gay people want outher people to treat them with rrespect and dignity well they should give examples by not demonstrating exorbitant demonstrations in there parades but its perfectly ok in there own environments of course.
You quote JOHN 8-7 IN THE BIBLE, He who has not sin cast the first stone .... what does that have to do with this.
Put it all in a nut shell, speedos atr ok, its ok to wear them, its ok to like them, its ok to ... have fun in them but at the right time and places.

[Byron]

Here's a UK blogspot where the guy should perhaps have contributed to this forum on the current discussions.
Much of it we have heard already but he does mention ridicule of his purchase by friends and speedo-wearing associated with homosexuality.

At the end he also tells us that stores in Oz still sell mens' speedos 3-2 against boardies.

http://aipetcher.wordpress.com/2011/...eedo-swimwear/

[Byron]

Louis: I must of course let CD speak for himself but I will attempt an interpretation of his post:

Undies in a bundle could also be knickers in a twist, ie an obsessive attachment to analysing the "ownership" of speedos by those in the gay culture.

John 8:7 has to be read with "......an expression of your gay side..... " and
".........perfectly OK with me........"

In other words "I have faults of my own so I do not sit in judgment of some gay persons' activities" (this, remember, is a reflection also on the different neighborhoods of SF).

Just for the record we all know that the Book of John records Christ's words to the crowd at the intended execution of the adulterous woman.

In the King James Bible*: "He that is without sin among you let him first cast a stone at her"

*In the New American Standard Bible a slight variation of emphasis:
"..........let him be the first to throw........"