Surgery issues

[sebbie]

I think I need to run some experiments this evening with a combination employing a nice snug suit and my vibrator, on the order of something like what was being done in the video to that Japanese guy. I'm starting to feel some real tension in the groin area again post surgery, and I need to try some stunts to see exactly where this all leads.

I never cease to be amazed at the sensations I discover in the "research."

[sebbie]

My choice of suit for last night was that really tiny little yellow Seobean I had purchased at Christmas. Good lord its tiny and tight-fitting, its the smallest thing I have in my suit wardrobe. I immedisately went into a mode of involuntarily discharging a small urine stream just thinking about how I would feel getting myself into it. (When you lose your prostate, you also lose the muscles that shut off urine flow when you get aroused, and any urine left in your badder just streams out. There is another muscle that controls urine flow from the bladder that shuts this off under anything but sexual arousal conditions) Interestingly, when I get aroused like that, this is the only time when I have a "leakage" like that. Pretty much, in the old days I would be seeping lots of precum at this point instead. I am starting to learn how to deal with this. Keep a towel or two handy One partial solution is to just let it go for awhile before putting on the suit. Then I will be dry or nearly so.

Once I got into the suit, a tiny drop of precum appeared to form at the tip of my penis, staining the suit.

At that point I started up the electric vibrator, with my penis positioned "up in the little suit" Even only slightly hard, the sensations were nothing short of physicaly and psychologically amazing. The problem is that I think I pushed everything a little too fast. It was only a minute or so when I went into an intense dry orgasm. This orgasm was quite dry, with no more urine leakage.

Next time I try, I want to slow everything down a bit, partly in hopes of getting a little stronger erection in more time before I go off into orgasm. If I can slow things down I am convinced the orgasm will be even more intense. And I do want to try this again and soon.

On the plus side, I'm learning specific ways to still have a lot of fun even without a prostate. My penis still feels great only a little bit hard with the vibrator attacking it on the underside, I'm gradually learning new applied techniques to deal with the initial urine leakage problem.

What I did last evening was pretty intense and focused, but interesting research for me. Hitting the underside of your penis with a vibrator when your penis is positioned up in a tiny little suit like the Seobean is about as intense as it gets, and a good thing to try to see what happens even if you still have an intact prostate.

I recognize that sexual arousal is a very individualized thing. In particular not everyone enjoys getting off in a tiny suit as much as I do. How this all would work with a partner, I don't know. In that situation there would be some tricky curves to negotiateI am sure.

But, did I enoy myself sexually post surgery? Absolutely! This is wild and crazy fun to see exactly what your body is capable of absorbing even when a few key parts are missing.

Disclaimer: With my comments here I do not wish to gross any of you out.The urology surgeon doing the prostate removal tries to do a good job of explaining exactly what the side effects will be relative to how things operated prior to surgery. And the patient normally lacks the nerve to provide specific details on how he was getting off pre-surgery anyway.

In my case, I did manage to pass along a copy of my Amazon book "Understanding Male Sexuality" to the surgeon before the surgery, however, so he kinda knew some of the stuff I am into.

Having an intense orgasm is a huge gift to being human, and I highly recommend running some self-experiments to see what your body is capable of doing for you. What you learn can also intensify partner sex. Even in my situation, I am having great fun.

David Sebringsil "Sebbie"

[SwimTeamSpeedo]

Sebbie, interesting series of posts. I am glad you are finding the exploration of your body's ability to respond exciting. The male body is a fascinating machine. More important, glad you are doing well. I enjoy the detail and factual explanations in your posts.

Ryan

[Byron]

Some new breakthrough with vaccine - on news today (University of Surrey)
but do not know whether it has a name.

Btw, have you seen this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnYgTlsISA4

[sebbie]

interesting video!

[sebbie]

All

I thought I would write you an update on my prostate surgery as of this morning. Right now, I am almost exactly 6 months out of the surgery. Not surprisingly, there have been two significant recovery issues, small amounts of urine flow that occur in odd situations, and, difficulty in getting back to having an erection. The fact that orgasms are without semen is not a problem. Indeed, I can masturbate in bed at night without messing up the sheets, something I couldn’t do without a little urine flow a few months ago. Being able to shut off the semen in bed entirely might have proven a quite handy talent when I was 12 or 14!

At this point, the urine flow issue has been pretty much confined to two situations. First, anything that presses on my butt can cause this to happen, even just drying my butt with a towel can do it. Not a lot of urine though, just a few drops, usually. I suspect that guys who stick whatever in their butts would have a potential issue here, however (attention gay guys!). Things in the butt normally massage the prostate through the rectum, and neither the prostate nor the prostate valves that shut off urine flow at that point are there any more, and there is usually a little urine in urethra beyond the bladder. Thong underwear is a bit dangerous to well, as the pressure from the strap on the back of the thong often cinches up tight right into the butt area pressing against the spot where the prostate was, and I am still running experiments on this using various thongs to determine exactly what happens and when.

The other situation normally occurs when I otherwise would have been precumming prior to surgery. This is, of course. At the very early stages of sexual arousal. I am discovering that this is a lot more complicated that I thought. This morning I was feeling kinda horny, and I decided it would be fun and sexually enjoyable today to just wear a skimpy little jock strap around the house today under compression shorts, when I am working around the house, excercising etc. Before the surgery the tight strap would get me precumming, no problem, and rather quickly. So I got a tight little strap in place and immediately shot a tiny stream of urine, not much but more than a few drops.

I pulled the strap down to check and, lo and behold there was a nice little spot that was clearly precum, between the size of a dime and a quarter. Psychologically I was feeling pretty good too, much as if I had been precumming in the old (pre-surgical) days. The only tricky part is figuring out how to deal with the little urine stream that accompanies or just precedes this, and I can go back to my much-beloved precumming employing a strap, thong or a tiny suit. In the case of the strap I am wearing today, the thinner urine stream went right through the coarse textured rubberized pouch, leaving the viscous precum stain pretty much intact in the pouch. Interesting!

The other issue, of course, is if, when and at what level will real erections start to occur. As I indicated, I am about 6-months away from the so-called nerve-sparing laparoscopic prostate surgery. The surgeons face the dilemma of not wanting to leave any of the tumor behind and yet leaving their patients as intact as possible with respect to being able to regain an erection post-surgery. Every prostate and surgery is different. My surgeon tells me he thinks he left me in pretty good shape to eventually get my erections back. A lot of the surgeries happen on older guys who didn’t get good erections pre-surgery, so sparing erection nerves is not an issue in these surgeries, but my surgeon knew that was not where I was pre-surgery.

After even nerve-sparing surgery, the nerves at the base of the prostate take a long time to heal so they are functional again. All the literature I read said figure a minimum of 12 months, maybe 18 months if at all. Here is what I have observed.

1st three months: My penis just sat there, about 2 inches long. If I worked at it long enough I could stimulate myself into an orgasm, but that was accompanied by a flow of urine which was more than disconcerting to say the least. My penis remained soft through all of this, and barely over 2 inches long.

4th month. Occasionally I would lie in bed and wake up thinking I was starting to feel some real sexual tension in my penis again. I would stimulate myself and started doing measurements, and discovered my erect penis was pushing 4 inches. By the way, erect penis measurement is not an exact science, and it partly depends on how much you push skin back at the groin to take the measurement.

6th month (now) I am starting to be able to have dry orgasms that are not accompanied by significant urine flow start to finish. Each week as I experiment some more I keep feeling just a bit more tension in the grown area. My penis still does not get to a place that I would call “hard” but it does feel quite pleasant. And the orgasms seem to be getting stronger, little by little. My ruler says that at my best right now, and, interestingly, immediately post- not pre-orgasm, I could be up to 4 ½ inches. I just read a study that claims the average male erect penis length is 5.6 inches. If that is the case I only have a bit more than an inch to go to be at least “average” again. My chances of becoming a record breaker is nill, but then I never was that anyway. I’m thinking more along the lines of something that looks neat semi-erect in a Seobean or Aqux, and that should potentially be much more doable.
I want to also say that still have quite a ways to go, a minimum of 6-12 months, when I hope this will really start to come together, but for now, I am on track, I think.

You guys may not fully appreciated it, but your posts of photos and stories have been very useful in my post-surgical recovery, and for those I am grateful. Come to think of it, I need to locate one of those rotating vibrators like that cameraman in the Japanese Speedo video had. I suspect that would be useful therapy for me.

Sebbie

[sebbie]

That was rather fun. I was getting bored with my stationary rowing this afternoon so I decided to try something new. Off went my little Gildan tighty whitey briefs, and on went a patterned cotton Joe Boxer thong, size SM
The thong fits snug enough so that the back cinches up between my buttocks. With every stroke of the rowing machine, it tugs tighter and pulls on the pouch and the contents therein. What an interesting sensation. Needless to say, my rowing has been going by much faster this afternoon. I love the feel of the thong as it tugs and pulls in a lot of interesting ways, something new with every rowing stroke!

I am headed off to do some more rowing...as they say, make your exercise enjoyable if at all possible.