[sebbie]

Dylan and Josh agree that they are going to go on a shopping trip this weekend that in part will be a search for clothing items that might prove useful in pleasuring themselves. On line shopping can be interesting in this regard, but there is no substitute for seeing the particular items up close before buying them. Too, Dylan, in his shopping trips, has been noticing some things that seem to be drawing attention to this. Increasingly, items have been showing up in retail stores in recent months that have attracted his attention.

Of course, this isn’t entirely new for sure. Not that many years ago, it was possible to walk into not only a sporting goods store, but also into many mass market retailers and find entire racks of stretchy swimming briefs in a host of different colors and sizes. For guys who found stretchy swim briefs to be a real turn-on, just SEEING these racks of briefs hanging there in a variety of shapes, sizes and colors was a fun turn-on. It was not even necessary to make a purchase, but just being able to look at the snug briefs hanging on the racks in a row and maybe touch a few of them was enough to send a guy’s pre cum making factory into high gear overdrive. Guys knew this

Now, the vast majority of guys who wear swim briefs either as an outer garment or even as an inner garment under board shorts make their purchases on line, and it is rare to find a bricks-and-mortal retailer, even a sporting goods store, that stocks a selection of any number of options, if at all. Usually the selection is limited to branded Speedos ® with 3-inch sides in black or navy blue, if that. Customers who ask for anything more (or less) are usually routed to the on-line version of the store, but in order to make a purchase there, guys would at least need to be old enough to have a credit card, or be secure enough to explain to their parents what they are doing and why. Usually, given the fact that a guy normally likes to keep his interest in such things deeply hidden, the latter probably isn’t going to happen.

Also, not that many years ago, men’s thong underwear was very popular for a short period of time. But at least outside of big urban areas, this has largely disappeared as well. Again, guys who want to wear thong underwear are pretty much dealing with on line retailers. Not that many years ago, Jockey ® carried a line of very brief thong underwear for men, some all cotton but a lot of them made from a very stretchy cotton-Lycra ® fabric in a design that touched all the ‘right’ places. These were readily available at any retail outlet that stocked the jockey brand, and were very fun to wear in all the right (or wrong) ways. Alas, these disappeared from the Jockey ® line a number of years ago.

The same is true for guys who think they might enjoy wearing an “old school” athletic supporter (jock strap) with or without a hard cup. At one time these were most commonly sold at drug stores and sporting goods stores. Drug stores typically sold this gear along side other ‘protective’ gear that stretches, such as elbow, knee and ankle supports. And the sporting goods store would have an entire wall devoted to the items in all sorts of shapes and sizes. A bevy of teen agers convinced their parents that they needed a strap and maybe a cup because the school coach was requiring that they wear one for some physical activity that they were engaging in at school, perhaps as part of a team sport. Perhaps more than a few young guys may have simply made up a story like this simply because they were turned on by the prospect of wearing the gear.

Not only that, the young guy’s peers were probably telling ‘funny’ stories about what might happen if a guy got an erection while wearing a strap, but in particular a strap with a cup too small to hold an erect penis. While these stories may have terrified some young guys, they were also a source of fascination, as guys wondered if their own bodies would react in the specific ways their peers were describing in detail. The poor guy was scared but in an odd way also aroused by the entire prospect of getting to be in a strap and cup. Besides, if it were true that the coach was actually requiring that guys wear these at school, best to run an ‘experiment’ to check this all out at home, alone, in the privacy of your own room to make sure your mind and body can ‘handle’ the situation without something embarrassing happening when you get out and get into this gear with your buddies present. Same deal with swim briefs being required for guys who want to be on the school swim team, exactly.

On the other hand for guys with an interest in snug-fitting clothing of various kinds, the situation has improved in an assortment of ways. Only a few years ago, guys all wore jeans that were very roomy in the crotch and fit baggy, perhaps very baggy, from thigh to ankle. Finding jeans that fit snugger in the butt and crouch and tapering in the thigh to the ankle was very difficult, if not impossible. The narrowest jeans available tapered to 15 inches at the ankle. Anything that fit snugger than that, with a narrower leg was referred to as a ‘girly’ jean and not something that any ‘real’ guy would ever be caught wearing.

Really skinny jeans really got their start in women’s fashion, as women seemed to like the body-accenting look of a slim and tight fit. Women started wearing thong underwear with slim and tight jeans over. For women, slim and tight soon became even slimmer and even tighter. Manufacturers soon discovered that they could only get the look that women wanted and make it possible for women to get in and out of the jeans if they added Lycra® to the denim blend. So, ordinary denim quickly became stretch denim.

Manufacturers making men’s jeans discovered that there might be male customers out there who wanted a slimmer and snigger fit, despite the “girly jeans” issue. The big jeans maker Levis® first introduced the 511® design, with a much slimmer and snugger fit than a traditional Levis 505® design. This was followed by the discovery that there will guys out there who wanted to wear something even snugger and downright tight in the legs, much closer to women’s jeans in cut. A few adventuresome guys had already started to buy women’s jeans to get that fit, although since guys are constructed quite differently from women, this was not a satisfactory solution. The 511® tapered to an approximate 14-inch ankle.

Super Skinny for men was born. In the Levis ® line this was introduced as the 510 ® tapering to only about 13-inch ankle with a still snugger fit in the butt, crotch and thigh as well. These were not that easy to get in and out of because the denim had no stretch.

Initially however, US jeans manufacturers were reluctant to take the step that they had done in women’s designs, specifically, put Lycra ® in the denim blend so it would stretch for a skin tight body fit. But many guys were wearing Lycra® blend skin tight tights for things like running in cold weather, and they did not seem bothered by the argument that what they were wearing was somehow girly. So maybe some guys would accept skinny jeans denim that stretched.

It was the guys in many parts of Southeast Asia that really set the new styling trend for guys in other parts of the world. They liked super skinny jeans very much, and had no reservations about the idea of using a stretch fabric to get the skin-tight look they wanted tapering to a 12-inch ankle (or less). For much of Southeast Asia, super-skinny stretch jeans have become not only a fashion trend but almost a required uniform for young guys. For guys elsewhere who like the look these jeans can be ordered direct from Asia via online retailers like Aliexpress.com (search on ‘men’s skinny jeans’) [A word of warning; These are made for Asian guys who are typically smaller and skinnier than most American guys, and expect the same size to fit way snugger than if you were buying from an American retailer.]

Increasingly, however, western retailers big and small, on line and retail stores, are stocking more and more men’s skinny jeans that are made from denim that contains Lycra. The Asian look in jeans has caught on elsewhere. Dylan likes the skinny jeans he wore to class, very much it seems, and he thinks it would be fun to introduce Josh to them. The problem is that guys, even 19-year olds are not supposed to talk to each other about this stuff.

There is more to this story, much more…