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 As to the Billabong, probably came from ebay. but maybe from the men's swimsuit megastore (Badehose.com).  I got a lot from there, too.  I forgot to mention Bikkemborg (very scant feeling) and Agonswim water polo briefs.  They have some substance to them. Have one Tommy Hilfiger brief, but never been able to catch a Quiksilver.
 We all know that some days you're not in the mood for that same old thing.
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