the team pic
 

Swimmers maybe - but no issues with the water polo guys I would suggest
(in fact the less to wear the better)

confused....
 

:confused: OP green kelly seem to be corduroy walking shorts
(and Etsy some sort of craftsmen's cooperative from Brooklyn NY
but pricing goods on the website in GBP).

I would have thought STS's preference in running shorts to be something like this:
(nil inseam in the approved competition wear for this Oz athletic club)
http://www.athleticsact.org.au/_/rsr...ing_shorts.jpg

I liked the look of the front pockets sticking out below the bottom of the shorts on cutoffs when short shorts were in fashion.

Byron u missed the point
 

My post referring to OP shorts was about how lengths have changed for guys shorts and swimwear. Go read it again.... OP shorts were the in-style guys casual shorts of the day.

Basketball players such as Michael Jordan really got long shorts in the mainstream when the players decided against wearing the usual short shorts that were worn for years. They wanted shorts that were more their style which were longer and looser than the older players' shorts.

"their style"
 

.......might that by any chance include the manufacturers' opportunity for a price-hike, advertising space, and lurid coloring?
I have yet to be convinced that a long mass of manmade fiber clinging to a sweaty leg during play can in some way be more comfortable to wear.

The drug gangs in the USA started to wear big baggy shorts in the 1990's, they were able to hide drugs and weapons in their shorts. The black and later white communities followed suit when they played street basket ball and followed the fashion of the tougher guys.
The "moral majority" jumped onto the bandwagon, they identified shorter shorts with the gay community, and so turned young people against, showing their legs.
Interesting to see how in the WW2 era photos the guys went topless, but covered the navel.
The pre WW2 swimmers covered their chests but exposed their legs, in heavy cotton it must have been hard to swim. No wonder so many schools enforced naked swimming.

what to cover...
 

Heavy cotton might well be suitable in training as a drag suit today but I can still remember the horrors of oversized speedos in scratchy soggy wool !

I know for a fact that the long and baggy look that guys all over the place are now wearing originated as the uniform for prison inmates and was initiated by the California Dept. Of Corrections some time in the early 80s.

Then Rappers and basketball players adopted the look.

I remember that the long versus short shorts in the NBA actually made the national news. The coaches at the time were definitely against longer/baggier shorts saying they would make their players look like gang members. It wasn't much later until the college basketball players wore longer shorts as well.

The short shorts of vintage NBA uniforms were so short they showed the player's jockstrap every time he made a jump shot or went up for a rebound. Perhaps that motivated players to want longer shorts?

Bumper Boots
 

Wow, back in the 1950's-60's they were wearing bumper boots for basketball. I had a pair in the 1970's. They are a black canvas plimsolls with white rubber fittings including star embossed ankle caps. I haven't seen or thought of them in years.

denim
 

Re. post #83 cut-offs done previously but cannot see posts now in the archives.
However, with pockets remaining here (but always for the girls these days):
http://www4.images.coolspotters.com/...ts-gallery.jpg

the point...
 

Re. post #84 yes, I have read it again and I think this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Post#75 says, inter alia , "OP shorts guys wore that had virtually no inseam".
Being ignorant of this product I was subsequently referred to OP Shorts Kelly Green website, expecting to see the past objects of desire - but instead finding corduroy walking shorts definitely WITH a noticeable inseam.
I should perhaps have been looking at "Vintage Retro 1970s Beige Taupe Tan"
......so further directions are awaited in order that I do not miss the point again.

(Btw also awaited is promised photo which might obviate all my guesswork)

PS:Considering you're so pernickety with skinnykid if he wants to say short shorts I hope you will properly define "virtually no inseam" with a precise measurement.

boots post#92
 

Remember those - these are a "1950s basketball icon":
http://www.finishline.com/store/imag...m10ch3kblk.jpg

These are not pre 90s men's shorts, but it does indicate there is a definite trend to a shorter style!!! ;)

http://www.marcjacobs.com/marc-by-ma...ready-to-wear/

CD

Here's an update on the subject:

http://blog.sfgate.com/chronstyle/20...horts/#13664-2

CD

1966
 

Slide 14 in CD's post shows what may be the earliest "board shorts" I have seen... Jantzen 1966. They may not be real boardies, but the length was certainly getting there.

re: blog.sfgate.com/chronstyle/20...horts/#13664-2
 

Picture 14 is described as a "Barris surf car", but it looks like a Mini Moke, made in England and used in the Prisoner TV series.
I am sure Byron will tell me if I am correct.

The Donkey
 

I am indeed in accord with that observation and nothing like the Barris:
http://lyttlestreet.files.wordpress....ha-machine.png

I note that it is RHD but it is however confusing as the side panels say Beach Boys, Mini Surfer and what looks like the Barris logo.

From The Prisoner (for the uninitiated, Port Meirion Wales - a village of some fantasy created by architect Clough William Ellis):
http://www.philipsage.webspace.virgi...soner_moke.jpg

Originally intended to be a military vehicle the Moke was to imitate the American "Jeep" ( a rather daft idea with those small wheels on rough terrain). It succeeded as a popular beach buggy however and production moved from Cowley Oxfordshire to Birmingham Longbridge. After that to Italy - and ended up in Portugal where the last one rolled off the line in 1993.

Portmeirion
 

http://caerblaidd.com/gallery/portme...anate-village/
(built between 1925 and 1975)

Amend:
Architect Sir Bertram Clough Williams-Ellis and Minimoke is LHD

pic
 

LOL - we have been all over the place in this thread already but here is one guy who is multi-operational and seems to have all recreational occasions covered:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/8ba2322d6...8re5o1_500.jpg

He wears red split-sided short running shorts with a cord under which may be a G string - and below that the tanline of what may have beensquare cut trunks.

Here's a way to formally popularize short shorts and short swim suits:

http://www.chubbiesshorts.com/pages/...r-chublication

Any of you guys on a college campus outa try this!!! :D

shorts on the way.......
 

Wow if those come back in style I will eat pasta for a month to save up and buy a few and get myself a pair of binnoculars.

Wow just a few months ago this company offered a few styles and colors of their shorts. Today they offer easily double compared to just a few months ago. They are a made in the USA company and I hope they continue growing.

Chubbies
 

Am I missing something here?
What exactly should be tried out on campus
- is it the activities as filmed in the video?

A nice selection of unspectacular shorts is shown
but as for "radical" on the menu it is hard to see
how some mostly unintelligible marketing
gobbledygook therein can fit that word.

To read this one expects to see the world set on
fire with the product - I don't think so!

This article was published back in January of this year, but it's still a trend:

http://hongwrong.com/no-pants-day-hong-kong/

Everyday outa be "no pants" (actually "No Half Pants") day.

this thread
 

LOL - did you know what you were starting here?
A year now and still going - and just short of 8000
hits !

Companies now produce pre-fabbed cutoffs for girls

the denim look
 

LOL - there is also somewhere a very very brief cut-off made as a swimsuit for men
(a Japanese site as I recall - hard to find - Sebbie may know what I'm talking about)

Here's an update on this trend:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/U...#photo-5161341

Not many pics of the below the hip area, but he definitely likes his shorts short.

Times Have really changed
 

... since these are considered short shorts. When I was younger, all tennis shorts were shorter than this and volleyball and track shorts were even shorter than tennis shorts. Now it seems like the only truly short athletics shorts are for running. The local college cross country team runs past my house sometimes and they mostly wear very short short, sometimes with deep side splits, and no shirt. Might as well run in speedos, they wouldn't cover much less.

tennis
 

Yes, I suppose that might be considered daring - not sure what Wimbledon Rules lay down about length.

Btw, I found the Japanese guy with denim cut off cut off cut offs in a short shorts video2 which is NSFSF (Not Suitable For Speedo Forum)

If they are 1/2 way up from the knees (and even shorter), that's good and it indicates men are starting to push back against the long & baggy look.

Running shorts
 

They are generally well above mid thigh,much closer to waist than knee and often spilt at the side almost to the waist. This is the local college cross country team, so probably not representative of college men in general.
On a totally unrelated note, except it refers to lack of shyness among young males, another local college is doing The Full Monty for thier fall musical.
While I gather that despite the title, there is minimal full frontal nudity, I believe it does show a lot of males who are wearing little.

the local college
 

LOL - perhaps they can take a few tips from Les Dieux De Stade - the
French rugby guys seem proficient, with clever photography, in producing
their tasteful and sexy annual calendar.

This article is about a father who wanted to shame his daughter for wearing short shorts, however many (if not most) of the comments indicate that men in short shorts look just OK!!! :p

http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2013/0...hter-a-lesson/

I drove by a high school athletic field today and I noticed there were teenagers in P.E. class running multiple laps around the track.

Surprisingly, about half of them were in pre 90s era running shorts. So some progress is being made and encouragement to keep up the campaign. :D

School track teams bus the students to a local park to run. Most are shirtless, wearing short compression shorts under nylon running shorts. My guess no more than a 6-7 inch inseam.

shorts twice
 

Could someone explain the value of compression shorts to me?
A jock was sufficient for them in the past but I see rugby players
wearing them more and more nowadays.
The effect is very odd as they may be wearing white short team shorts in the game - but protruding beneath are black compression shorts almost down to the knee.