explanation
 

A delay must be expected - my supercharged stratospheric brain is at present entirely
focussed on reconsidering my approach as requested by dooley (whose post I have to say commands a little more respect - even if inaccurate in reference to Crail).

When you mention your supercharged stratospheric brain are you referring to quasi-biennial oscillation?
Only bacteria and a few vultures and geese are found alive in the stratosphere, it is a lonely cold place, better to come down to Earth.

Turbo
 

Dooley67 & STS,

I bought the US print and a solid black. I didn't want to get too crazy with prints yet. I probably will with my next purchase. I'm sure I will love the Turbos as much as the two of you do. I hope to have them Saturday.

A lot of threads devolve into chippy little exchanges, and this one is going down that path rapidly.

In the immortal words of Rodney King, "can we all get along?"

Shaulis,

Which US print did you order. I've got the one that says USA on a blue background and stars on the back of the suit and on the front it has the Stars and Stripes. You are definitely going to love the Turbos. You need to let us know how you like them, dry and wet.

D67

chippy
 

Thank you LC for quoting the quote correctly

quasi-biennial oscillation
 

Re post#42 perhaps I should have been a little clearer there Tw . You suggest the QBO but I would consider my high range of thinking to be more in the Jetstream (thus providing a chance to influence Earth rather than just being on Earth to endure its whims).

only one wearing speedos at pool other guys in board shorts
 

I have been to swim clubs, where most guys wear baggy swim suits, like the board shorts. They say that they would rather wear speedo style swim briefs. Sadly many parents,families wont the younger guys wear snug speedo briefs, as they are considered being a gay male style. I wear speedos most of the time when swimming at my health club, but put shorts over them at family oriented swimming facilities. Many times, being with families I'll wear board shorts, to calm their homophobia. I'll wear my speedo swim briefs a lot during the summer months as underwear too. i really like wearing them. It's too bad, that so many American families with growing young and teenage boys put them in such an awkward situation as to their sexuality. The young women and many girls wear bikini swim suits that show so much of them, looking like young girl's underwear. If a girl or young woman wears a one piece bright colored swim suit, they too old fashioned or prudish, not showing enough of their bodies. When I lived in Europe, especially in France and Italy, men of all ages wore speedo swim suits and some women and girls, wore very pretty one piece swim suits at times. What men and women wore on or to the beaches in these countries, is not an issue for them. I felt great wearing my favorite speedo briefs at the beaches or swim clubs there. I'm a bit older now, yet still in good shape. I go swimming, as often as I can and still fit in speedo swim briefs wearing them often during the warm summer months.

Swim suit Eddie,

It sounds like you're comfortable wearing speedos any place. Have you considered wearing speedos at the family oriented swimming facilities as a way of encouraging others to do the same. Maybe some of the homophobia you speak of would be reduced if more boys and men wore speedos if you were to set the example. Just a thought.

D67

brain re-energised...
 

In answer to post#40 the meaning is ' hard to understand/profound' and I
checked the dictionary to ensure the accuracy of my reply for you there. That is a useful little book - you should get one.
I also went to O for your obtruse but it doesn't exist.
Under M you were ok for masturbate - but such a revolting vision
of your obeisance was enough to make me put the dic. away immediately.

Flaunt
 

As long as pride parades show guys flaunting their bodies in speedos you are going to have many equate speedos with gay. I find these displays disguting and in your face-don't know what they are trying to prove-I swim laps in speedos all the time and that's what they are for-not strutting and pawing each other in a parade.

I fully agree Dorcas3. And very well put, short and to the point.

D67

the parades
 

Yes, I have long felt that the shock tactics employed have a great and undesirable rebound effect but they continue in some annual pride parades. Maybe the attitude is "we have nothing to lose if we are sneered at so often already " but the spectacle is reminiscent of the medieval freak shows which would attract crowds for some diverting amusement (entirely the wrong level at which to secure better public tolerance of course).
Maybe I am pessimistic but I fear that the gay-only perception of speedos is going to take a very long time to eradicate.

Eddie, is funny and freak that in recent years as menswear begging to be large and baggy but the womenswear begging to be shorted. Talking to very young people (under 25 years) many of them they think that this was always like now, and them they consider “the rule” o “The normal” is for a guy cover all the male body (more than the women) also they think “be a guy covered” (more covered than a girl) always was the rule..... a lot of guy think take off the t-shirt in a hit day at the streets is gay......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYvZnR2_xak
zungaboy video

Zungaboys video
 

LOL - whatever happened to the lighting?
Rather better quality one from the same videographer here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgnr...nksgkDYA_9qFNg

I don't understand the reasoning that just because you have seen men wearing speedos in a Gay Parade means they are an extraordinary and exclusive symbol of the "Gay Scene" and men in main stream society should reject them as a form of fetish wear.

Like the Str8 scene, the gay scene is also loaded with eroticism and very body centric. Accordingly, it embraces many ordinary everyday "symbols" such as wearing jeans, T-shirts, sneakers, leather, body building, salacious dancing and poses, and just about anything else that seems like a turn on.

So if you selectively pick out any particular form of behavior (such as wearing speedos) as being a symbol of the "Gay Agenda" and don't want to associate yourself with it, then I'd say you're a bit homophobic.

Just to be curious, when you saw guys wearing speedos in the gay parade, how did you come to view it in the first place? Did you attend the parade in person or just watch it on the news?

I agree with you California Dolphin. I still don't understand how wearing a Speedo brief makes someone gay .

Byron, thanks for noticing. :)

another ad infinitum...
 

LOL - thank you for your thanks for noticing
(FIN)

It must be something that is very high tech that is surreptitiously put in all brief swimwear that instantaneously turns someone from straight to gay. Can anyone think of a more plausible explanation????

D67

It is in the drawstrings.... they contain gay conversion power.... lol.

Just wondering, if I wear boardies, will I hear a "poof" and suddenly be straight?

STS

Is that because they're similar to bikinis which women wear?

So does that mean women who wear trousers are gay?

Anything that boys/men do that girls/women start to do and then take over become "gay".
For example church choirs used to have choir boys as trebles, then choir girls began to infiltrate and take over so the remaining choir boys were assumed to be gay. Tennis also began as a men's sport, King Henry VIII played it, then women started playing it and it was thought of as gay; until it became apparent that some of the women players were lesbian and all players began grunting.
Swimming and athletics have been taken over by women and girls, the remaining boys and men retreating into ever longer shorts in order not to be thought of as gay. Women and girls have also started playing football (soccer) choosing to wear shorter shorts than the boys and men, making the boys and men wear longer shorts in order not to be assumed to be gay.
There is a tendency for girls to want to do what the boys are doing, then to try to take it over and wear the style of clothes the boys have been wearing, so that boys that still want to do that activity in the tradition style of clothing can be accused of looking and acting like girls and being gay.
It is homophobes that shout out that wearing speedos is gay, so if you are protected by thousands of other gay men why not wear speedo and laugh.

the worrying bit.....
 

Homophobic predominance is far worse than I thought - only able to wear and laugh in speedos when under the protection of thousands of gays ?

Btw, King Harry's Real Tennis is still played to this day at Hampton Court Palace

We could have a contest to see who can think of the wackiest reason why men who wear speedos are assumed to be gay. I know it's a serious issue related to homophobia, but we could also make light of it because the reasoning that folks use is so screwy in the first place.

D67

Absolutely!

D67

Doesn't help when they kiss each other after scoring a goal and roll about the place in agony after the slightest tackle.

Rugby players wear shorter shorts, yet I doubt if you could assume them to be gay.

not to assume but.....
 

...ex Welsh Rugby national team captain??

It seems a great pity - I wish many more sportsmen would declare but you will see that in the few sports instances it comes only after retirement and/or end of contract - so, as with everything else, it's the money that counts against principles in the end (and tragically, at the extreme, one London footballer's (soccer player) suicide resulted).

Btw, the size of players required in rugby team selection today would put many a bodybuilder to shame.

Dooleys Gay speedo hate contest
 

The Homosexual Agenda 14 Aug 2011
By C. Welker - Published on Amazon.com

"For those who don't believe there's a homosexual agenda, I would ask you to do some historical research. Fifty years ago, homosexuals were "in the closet" because they knew if they were to come out, they risked ridicule and perhaps their very lives.

Along came the Sixties and Seventies and the Sexual Revolution that pushed the "if you're not with the one you love, love the one you're with" idea. Suddenly, promiscuous behavior included anything and everything, including homosexuality. "Gay" parades in places like San Francisco brought out scantily-dressed people writhing through the streets sporting spiked collars and black lipstick insisting the world should accept them as "normal.""

There appears to be some serious homophobic anti speedo hatred here.

Torchwatch,

I'm very well aware that homophobia is a serious issue and I didn't mean to offend by making light of it. And to clarify, I proposed that as a joke and did not refer to it as a "speedo hate contest." That being said, I don't think the gay parades with scantily clad, outrageously made up men add anything positive to the movement; rather I think they detract from it. And those who happen to be wearing speedos as part of their costume then reinforce the belief that only gay men wear speedos. They just feed into the stereotypes that homophobes have about gays.

The outrageous and ridiculous part of "only gay men wear speedos" is that it is just plain silly, and sometimes humor reduces a contentious issue to the point of it being ludicrous. I think that by constantly examining the issue in such detail, the false assumptions are dignified rather than ignored. I don't want to appear to be seeing this simplistically, but, if someone wants to wear a speedo, then wear it and the hell with others think or assume about you. And whether speedo wearers are gay, bi, or straight, they pay taxes, marry in 17 states and DC, have families, etc., like everybody else. That appears to me to be pretty normal.

D67

funny thing
 

I always found that gay guys in speedos tended to be gay, straight guys in speedos tended to be straight. Lets not get our strings in a knot. D67's humor was just that...a fun diversion.

typecasting...
 

I think the "here" of Tw's post needs clarification as belonging to wanker Welker's opinions as quoted - or to the "here" of this forum.
I must say misunderstandings might be avoided if we did not see the apparent smug chumminess of STS and Dooley on a surreal joke about the magic powers
of waistcords with poof in them. (vide Queen Victoria: "We are not amused")

Byron, Yup...we are chums. A relationship you do not understand. Once again your powerful brain was overpowered by your insulting personality.

Btw, the quote ends before the final sentence if TW's grammar is correct.

Bryon,

I think you are making a mountain out of molehill with the joke. I like STS and Dooley67 they are my friends. I believe the joke was told for a laugh nothing more.

Shaulis

so what?
 

Tw's grammar is correct and he simply indicates when he has stopped quoting Welker (the double quote mark in fact indicates he has been meticulous in that respect).

Lighten up
 

Byron,

It appears that my effort to clarify my intent and even offering a mea culpa if I offended anyone fell on deaf ears in favor of making the mountain out of a mole hill as shaulis wrote. And what does the "apparent smug chumminess" of STS and Dooley have to do with any of this? If some folks chose to pick up on my humor and continue it, that's their prerogative. I believe that Bede also made a contribution to the humor as well. There needs to be a place for humor on this forum; not everything has to be serious.

You know, a joke is just that, a joke, and sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. Just lighten up Byron.

D67

rugby news
 

Matching post#64 to #68 the England Women's Rugby team has just scored over Canada in the Finals and so are now World Champions (in short shorts and with some fine legs).

lit up
 

(in response to post#77):p

Swim!
 

I think that the best way to get guys comfortable in wearing speedos is to get them to swim-preferably doing laps. Everything points to a brief suit as being the thing to wear when trying to optimise performance. If you get to wearing them in the pool you will gradually feel more at "home" in them-starting with your time in the pool area, locker room and walking between them. At times I have jumped out of the pool and gone to the parking lot in them to check the meter. As for washing windows at home and vehicles it may seem a little strange to others as it would if you went shopping. You gotta have shorts with pockets for that! I really feel for guys that continue to be shy about wearing them because they feel so great. Nude is of course better but that would be a little over the top-maybe 20 years from now. I continue to wear mostly Caussies and Turbos-each are somewhat different.but enjoyable. If you can't swim take a few lessons and begin by wearing speedos it shows your dedication and the instructors-guy our girl will understand. I have found that female instructors have a lot more patience with you and will be wearing a suit as brief as yours! Do It.